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Posted on 3/29/18 at 10:46 am to The Levee
They're changing the name to Baton Blanc
Posted on 3/29/18 at 10:47 am to Impotent Waffle
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Examples, Westdale, FLAIM, Mayfair Lab, Lee High, and Baton Rouge High to name a few
How many of these schools are neighborhood schools? How many are gifted or magnet schools?
No one is saying there aren't some great schools in the EBRSS, it's that the system as a whole is poor.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 10:51 am to Tigerlaff
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beer would flow like wine and beautiful women would instinctively flock there like the salmon of Capistrano.
But the beer would be mich ultra and the women would be fatties that wear camo, bc it’s still br.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 10:52 am to beerJeep
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Oh I'm well aware. I'm just pointing out the massive hypocrisy from our baron rouge friends on the topic. They don't want st George in city limits. And they don't want st George to have their own city.
Exactly, and I know opponents of SG here live in BR. They argue with you tooth and nail that it's going to be bad for us but they don't want us, and they don't want us to have what they have, a city.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 10:57 am to Duke
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So some control,
No, no control. The mayor sets the budget. The council only votes to accept the budget as is, or vetoing line items and that takes 8 votes.
Practically speaking, will there ever be 8 votes opposing Broome? Do you believe Broome will give SG its fair share? Do you think in the past we got our fair share?
And no I don't think a fair share is a certain percentage. If our taxes are going to improve vital services for the parish like a civic center, cleaning main drainage canals, fixing main bridges, etc. then that's fine if our roads and ditches and trash is taken care of too. But I don't see where we are getting much or any of those type services.
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In general, I'm concerned by how much of the movement support seems to view SG as some pancea that will just make everything better. It's going to take work, attention, and involvement from the area. Else, we won't have a significantly better government to justify not having our money going to in part improve BR as well
I agree, SG will not replace Broome, she will still be parish president. SG won't replace problems you see with BREC, the Libraries, etc. Many don't understand the issue from top to bottom.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:04 am to doubleb
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I believe the city proper elects city court judges, the constable, and that's about it.
Correct.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:35 am to doubleb
Plus, St. George will never get an ISD. The organizers know this too. First, the map they drew for the city (circles around “apartment complexes”... come on) will never survive a court challenge. Second, the parish voting patterns have changed since Central got an ISD. There is nowhere close to a majority in EBR for a St. George ISD (and the whole parish votes). Once the necessary tax increases are layed out (b/c St. George ISD would have to assume substantial legacy costs AND build new schools) I’m not even sure an ISD could pass within the boundaries of St. George.
There may be a way to justify St. George based upon “other benefits”, but I don’t see them outweighing everything associated with adding another level of government. However, anyone who is for St. George or selling St. George because of an ISD either doesn’t understand what forming an ISD would entail or is being lied to by someone who does.
There may be a way to justify St. George based upon “other benefits”, but I don’t see them outweighing everything associated with adding another level of government. However, anyone who is for St. George or selling St. George because of an ISD either doesn’t understand what forming an ISD would entail or is being lied to by someone who does.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:43 am to SP
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First, the map they drew for the city (circles around “apartment complexes”... come on) will never survive a court challenge. Second, the parish voting patterns have changed since Central got an ISD.
So status quo. We keep paying for shite schools and nothing changes? God that is so Louisiana.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:45 am to doubleb
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I see our area of the parish neglected, unkept, trashy, etc. I realize that we are suckers
Neglected is a bit strong. Just watched the extension of Antioch go in up in the last few years and the new development that followed. The widening of Jones Creek, while taking forever, is another welcomed project in very recent memory.
There are valid points here about the waste in BR and of course the sorry state of our drainage ditches.
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Change needs to be better and not just a change.
This here I can work with from the pro SG side. I'm not sold on the city but if it does happen, I'll do what I can to work for the better change you're talking about.
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It wouldn't be a new layer of govt. It would be a new govt. providing services instead of the old one. One govt. would replace the other for just those services.
It ties into the zoning, liscenure, ect bit. I'm aware the services will just be under SG and not EBR. I'm speaking to having certain rules/regs from the parish and what SG might impliment.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:48 am to fallguy_1978
If they had included the apartment complexes they may have had a small chance in court, but it still would have been difficult. If the organizers were really about a school district they would have kept Gardere and actually spent some effort to get some signatures there. They say there was “no interest” there. I’m willing to bet there was not a lot of time spent knocking on doors to find out.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:50 am to SP
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If they had included the apartment complexes they may have had a small chance in court, but it still would have been difficult. If the organizers were really about a school district they would have kept Gardere and actually spent some effort to get some signatures there. They say there was “no interest” there. I’m willing to bet there was not a lot of time spent knocking on doors to find out.
They don't want Gardere kids in their school district and I don't really blame them. I don't want Zion City kids in my daughter's school
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:38 pm to fallguy_1978
There’s the rub. You can’t lawfully form a new school district for that reason. We’ve actually made some progress in the schools with innovative charters and increased magnet options since the ending of the desegregation case.
I am old enough to remember what forced bussing was like. Pretty exciting to see people who want to bring it back.
I am old enough to remember what forced bussing was like. Pretty exciting to see people who want to bring it back.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:43 pm to fallguy_1978
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They don't want Gardere kids in their school district and I don't really blame them. I don't want Zion City kids in my daughter's school
Those kids will still be going to a SG school.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:43 pm to SP
What circles around apartment complexes?
Population growth static in BR, rest of the parish grew some, and that helps the ISD cause.
You say we will need tax increases but that's not a given. Current school taxes may pay for schools. We pay them now and they go towards operations and construction.
No one knows the demand, and that needs to be studied in due course.
ISDs work very well in Texas, they work well here in EBR and there is no reason to think they can't work in SG.
And no level of govt. is being added, instead of calling the parish 211 number and getting no results when you need your pothole fixed, SG will have their own number and they will hopefully take care of things better than 211 does now. There is no other level. One replaces the other.
Population growth static in BR, rest of the parish grew some, and that helps the ISD cause.
You say we will need tax increases but that's not a given. Current school taxes may pay for schools. We pay them now and they go towards operations and construction.
No one knows the demand, and that needs to be studied in due course.
ISDs work very well in Texas, they work well here in EBR and there is no reason to think they can't work in SG.
And no level of govt. is being added, instead of calling the parish 211 number and getting no results when you need your pothole fixed, SG will have their own number and they will hopefully take care of things better than 211 does now. There is no other level. One replaces the other.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:51 pm to Duke
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Neglected is a bit strong. Just watched the extension of Antioch go in up in the last few years and the new development that followed. The widening of Jones Creek, while taking forever, is another welcomed project in very recent memory.
Antioch was a project no tin the Greenlight plan, I'll give you that one; however, Jones Creek is in the Greenlight plan and whether or not SG passes, the Greenlight plan and its associated tax will continue as is.
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This here I can work with from the pro SG side. I'm not sold on the city but if it does happen, I'll do what I can to work for the better change you're talking about.
Yes, people have to work together, and I feel better knowing that with a smaller govt. we can work with them easier and we can watch them more closely.
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It ties into the zoning, liscenure, ect bit. I'm aware the services will just be under SG and not EBR. I'm speaking to having certain rules/regs from the parish and what SG might implement.
Permitting and licensing in EBR is a bitch, SG can easily do better. Ask any contractor how tough it is to get permits and inspections now. Ask Architects you know. It is a huge problem.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:51 pm to The Levee
Children would once again be allowed to play in their front yards as crime would vanish overnight.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:53 pm to fallguy_1978
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They don't want Gardere kids in their school district and I don't really blame them. I don't want Zion City kids in my daughter's school
Gardere folks didn't sign the petition, they didn't want to be in SG. Why force people intot a city they don't want to live in?
On the other hand why can't BR folk let SG folk make their own decisions? Why do they have to bring on lawyers and have the mayor and everyone fight people who have a right to form their own city IF THEY SO CHOOSE?
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:55 pm to magildachunks
I try and answer your questions, did you answer mine? You once said you lived in BR, why are you such a vocal opponent of SG?
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:57 pm to doubleb
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try and answer your questions, did you answer mine? You once said you lived in BR, why are you such a vocal opponent of SG?
Because I believe y'all are being intentionally dishonest with people.
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