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re: Baton Rougeans...how much better would life be in St George?
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:31 am to Walkertiger
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:31 am to Walkertiger
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Those St. George leaders have no clue how much money they will need. Taxes will likely be over 10% on sales and they will most likely have to add property taxes to cover other unexpected cost and there is still no school in the budget. no basic city services are in the budget either, they are basically going to compensate BREC, DWP, EBRSO, EMS and bunch of other for existing services. Ill pass.
This is one of the most misinformed posts on the subject. You don't know what you are posting about?
SG isn't going to compensate BREC, EMS, or DPW. They were going to kick in more for better sheriff services, but don't Baton Rougeans in some neighborhoods kick in more now for police protection?
As for a clue as to how much money they need, that's BS too. The organizers hired a national firm to look at the situation, look at existing taxes, look at the existing situation, and they presented a budget showing there would be a surplus.
And why should schools be in the budget? They aren't petitioning for a new school system, they are petitioning for a new city.
You are obviously trolling. Do you live in SG?
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Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:34 am to Tigers0891
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You will still be surrounded by trash and going into Baton Rouge will be required for most of the activities around here so you still run into the dregs of society
BR would still have some nice areas. Bocage, Towne Center, Tara, downtown, etc are all in the city limits.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:35 am to lnomm34
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Is your family’s quality of life going to improve by being in an incorporated St. George? How? In what ways? Give me hard facts
Fact 1- we will have conquered the first step to getting an independent school system. And that is a major coup in and of itself.
Fact 2- we will have more control over our local tax dollars.
Fact 3- this is the absolute only thing aside from Jesus returning to become the EBRSS school superintendent, that could possibly save the educational future of this area.
Without it, more families move out like me.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:40 am to Impotent Waffle
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Why the big push for St George
Taypayers in SG pay a 2% sales tax to the parish's general fund, and we have no control over how this money is spent. The total amount is over 50 Million dollars. Many of us believe that we can control where that money is spent if we keep it in SG.
If you live in SG do you believe the parish is fixing potholes, cleaning ditches, fixing road signs, picking up trash, and crap on the road sides, and doing the things we are paying for them to do in SG? I don't remember the last time I've seen a City Parish crew cleaning ditches out my way. Maybe you have, I have not.
Our sales tax goes into the general fund and we get very little in services back.
And you are 100% correct; fire protection, police protection, garbage pick up, and water services (water isn't a govt. service) will not change at all, and neither will sewer service library service, EMS, etc. What will change is local control of the 50 plus million that Broome, and the current administration control.
And you are 100% correct an ISD is not guaranteed, but what is guaranteed is that if we do nothing, nothing will change. We will continue to see the status quo.
I say why accept crap, why accept mediocrity and poor schools. Central and Zachary didn't. Why should we? I think its worth fighting for.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:40 am to Huck Finn
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Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:41 am to Huck Finn
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Fact 3- this is the absolute only thing aside from Jesus returning to become the EBRSS school superintendent, that could possibly save the educational future of this area.
Without it, more families move out like me.
Yep. If we couldn't afford private or had more kids we wouldn't live in BR.
I'd love to hear one of the previous poster's argument against it. We need your tax money to keep running our failing schools? I can't think of anything else they could argue about. This area isn't part of the city to begin with so it's not like they are splitting off from BR like our dumbass mayor claims.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:42 am to magildachunks
If you received the petition in the mail it had the services they have to provide on the top right of the petition.
- city roads maint and servitude maint
- drainage and ditch maint
( they could just do something and they would have done a better job than EBRP DPW.
- garbage (contract it with who they have or bid it out). They can do better if they use common sense unlike DPW that did not bid out the contract.
- police service (they choose to pay the sheriff for
dedicated officers to be inside the city of St george)
- liquor licenses and enforcement will be paid for by fees for the license
- control zoning and building permits
- taxes will be less for the sheriff as the area will be paying for a police force or service done by the Sheriff. My properties inside BR pay a smaller percentage of property tax to the sheriff than the unincorporated areas do.
- No future metro council forcing a CATS bus tax on this area if they become a city. Right now the metro council could sneak it in on unincorporated areas if CATS needs to expand their cash pot. It would have to go to vote to the people like it was done for Baker and Zachary.
I am sure I left out a few things which are on the petition.
I think better together and the BRAF will try to sneak in having to find silky slim and Gravy chambers fund. Lol!
- city roads maint and servitude maint
- drainage and ditch maint
( they could just do something and they would have done a better job than EBRP DPW.
- garbage (contract it with who they have or bid it out). They can do better if they use common sense unlike DPW that did not bid out the contract.
- police service (they choose to pay the sheriff for
dedicated officers to be inside the city of St george)
- liquor licenses and enforcement will be paid for by fees for the license
- control zoning and building permits
- taxes will be less for the sheriff as the area will be paying for a police force or service done by the Sheriff. My properties inside BR pay a smaller percentage of property tax to the sheriff than the unincorporated areas do.
- No future metro council forcing a CATS bus tax on this area if they become a city. Right now the metro council could sneak it in on unincorporated areas if CATS needs to expand their cash pot. It would have to go to vote to the people like it was done for Baker and Zachary.
I am sure I left out a few things which are on the petition.
I think better together and the BRAF will try to sneak in having to find silky slim and Gravy chambers fund. Lol!
This post was edited on 3/29/18 at 9:46 am
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:43 am to doubleb
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If you live in SG do you believe the parish is fixing potholes, cleaning ditches, fixing road signs, picking up trash, and crap on the road sides, and doing the things we are paying for them to do in SG? I don't remember the last time I've seen a City Parish crew cleaning ditches out my way. Maybe you have, I have not.
Do people even bother to use the 311 app for this?
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:44 am to doubleb
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you live in SG do you believe the parish is fixing potholes, cleaning ditches, fixing road signs, picking up trash, and crap on the road sides, and doing the things we are paying for them to do in SG? I don't remember the last time I've seen a City Parish crew cleaning ditches out my way. Maybe you have, I have not.
You say all this. And then:
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And you are 100% correct; fire protection, police protection, garbage pick up, and water services (water isn't a govt. service) will not change at all, and neither will sewer service library service, EMS, etc.
Why keep services you deem to be subpar?
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:45 am to magildachunks
You ask a lot of questions, over and over again.
Letme ask you a question; you once said you lived around BRHS; why do you oppose SG so much?
Letme ask you a question; you once said you lived around BRHS; why do you oppose SG so much?
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:49 am to johnnyrocket
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No future metro council forcing a CATS bus tax on this area if they become a city. Right now the metro council could sneak it in on unincorporated areas if CATS needs to expand their cash pot. It would have to go to vote to the people like it was done for Baker and Zachary.
If they could do This, why haven't they?
SG gets CATS services, but doesn't pay for it.
Bunch of leeches.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:49 am to lnomm34
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So. Still all about the schools that aren’t anywhere in any plans? An ISD is decades from coming to fruition if it ever happens
It took Central about 1-2 years to form one I believe
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:49 am to doubleb
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You ask a lot of questions that have been answered.
The long term vision is to have a city. A budget was presented for that outlining city services. The goal is to have better city services than what the Parish provides now.
The long range goal is to have an ISD. That's common knowledge. A plan for an ISD is forthcoming, but that's not what the current petition is all about. The current petition is to form a city.
SGeans would continue to pay sales tax for infrastructure improvements for the Green Light Plan(roads, road maintenance, and etc.), taxes and fees for sewer upgrades and sewer maintenance that are parish wide. That won't change at all. Neither will garbage pick up. That too is a parish service.
If SG is formed schools won't change at all unless an ISD is created. That's common knowledge or at least I thought it was.
As for who will run the city, there will be a mayor who is elected. A council will be elected. This isn't rocket science. SG isn't doing something revolutionary here. They are just going what BR did 200 years ago and what Central dud not too long ago, trying to incorporate.
so nothing will change at all except maybe, way down the road, you'll have an ISD?
How long did it take Central to get an ISD?
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:50 am to magildachunks
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SG gets CATS services, but doesn't pay for it.
Bunch of leeches.
Almost nobody in St George rides the bus
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:51 am to magildachunks
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Why keep services you deem to be subpar?
Are you that dense? BREC, EMS, the sheriff, etc. aren't tasked with fixing potholes, cleaning ditches, etc.
You pretend to be knowledgeable on the subject, but you obviously haven't a clue as to who does what.
I'll give you a quick tutorial:
BREC- takes care of parks, recreation, etc. It's parish wide and is a separate entity and not part of C-P govt. BREC collects its own taxes.
EMS- takes care of emergency medical situations.
Sheriff- provide parish wide law enforcement, guards the jail and collects taxes.
BRFD-fights fires inside BR
SG Fire fights fires in the SG Fire District(and parts of BR)
Parish Water Works and BRWW provides drinking water to most of the parish. It is privately owned.
Library Control Board- is another separate entity that runs a parish wide library system. It collects its own taxes.
None of the above is taxed with cleaning ditches, fixing potholes, fixing road signs, painting stripes on the roadways, etc.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:52 am to fallguy_1978
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SG gets CATS services, but doesn't pay for it.
Bunch of leeches.
Almost nobody in St George rides the bus
Now that I'll agree with.
They don't need it.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:54 am to TheCaterpillar
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How long did it take Central to get an ISD?
Not long. A year or two I believe without looking it up. I'm a CHS alum.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:54 am to The Levee
If they were able to somehow produce a decent school system, it would be like living in AP with a 20 minute shorter commute to work.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:55 am to magildachunks
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If they could do This, why haven't they?
Because TBR gerrymandered a favorable voting district and rammed the CATS tax down the throats of Baton Rougeans. SG was deliberately excluded because by including us in the vote they knew the vote would fail.
And yes we get bus service that we don't pay for thanks to Together Baton Rouge who separated us for the vote.
And this is one example of why if SG formed a new city, Baton Rougeans need to move to SG. TBR may decide to tax you guys even more.
If I were in BR, I'd be worried. You guys are getting shafted.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:58 am to TheCaterpillar
We will gladly give The City of BR back CATS.
We do not need it.
CATS comes into unincorporated areas due to demands from the NBR councilpeople to provide access for their citizens to the mall of Louisiana, Seigen Lane Wal-Mart shopping center, Perkins Rowe, and woman’s hospital.
We do not need it.
CATS comes into unincorporated areas due to demands from the NBR councilpeople to provide access for their citizens to the mall of Louisiana, Seigen Lane Wal-Mart shopping center, Perkins Rowe, and woman’s hospital.
This post was edited on 3/29/18 at 10:00 am
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