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re: Baton Rouge private schools vs. public schools
Posted on 3/4/08 at 11:19 am to Rouge
Posted on 3/4/08 at 11:19 am to Rouge
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you can send any kid to plantation for grade school (i think. dont hold me to that) and paul breaux/alleman (gifted) for middle school
Nope, yes for any black kid, no for any white kid. white kids in the Parish are subject to regular zones unless they are zoned for a majority black school
you have to qualify for Gifted and Talented and not everyone wants their kids riding a bus across town for middle school
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hell, i went to Green T. Lindon and Youngsville Middle School and somehow managed to turn out fairly decent, even though i realize that i'm in the minority
So did I, but this is two of the best public schools in the parish in one of the most affluent areas of the parish
but you went to a Catholic HS and I went to the Public high school. if your experience with public schools was so good, why didnt you go to the public HS too? Posted on 3/4/08 at 11:20 am to TigerStripes06
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i attended both private and public schools, and i can tell you one thing...when i have children, they will never attend a public school.
Ditto. Well, in south louisiana at least.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 11:22 am to supatigah
quote:you know the answer to that, asshat
if your experience with public schools was so good, why didnt you go to the public HS too?
Posted on 3/4/08 at 11:22 am to Rouge
SAY IT
SAY IT
SAY IT
Posted on 3/4/08 at 11:25 am to Will Cover
i am reading all of this thread.
Baton Rouge High is the best school in BR and its Public
Baton Rouge High is the best school in BR and its Public
Posted on 3/4/08 at 11:29 am to supatigah
it's not anger. It's disagreeing. If you really think BR Diocese schools are bankrolling money somewhere, then you are fairly clueless. The failure in your logic is thining ANY catholic school system is making money. Also, it was pretty stupid to think the other guy, guttata, had any ties to the BR Catholic Schools in any way.
As for turning down Parishoners...maybe that is a much easier thing to do in Lafayette. BR Diocese schools owe it to their parishoners to find a way to get them in, otherwise they have to overpay (on top of what they should have given in collections) to go to an Episcopal, Dunham, or some other private option. EBR Public Schools just aren't an option. My point on the rankings is that, obviously the Diocese schools in BR are finding a way to make it work.
Would I prefer 25 students, hell yeah, but I would be pretty pissed off if I gave my money and time and was told my kid didn't make the cut. Apparently they are making it work at 32. Good for them.
As for turning down Parishoners...maybe that is a much easier thing to do in Lafayette. BR Diocese schools owe it to their parishoners to find a way to get them in, otherwise they have to overpay (on top of what they should have given in collections) to go to an Episcopal, Dunham, or some other private option. EBR Public Schools just aren't an option. My point on the rankings is that, obviously the Diocese schools in BR are finding a way to make it work.
Would I prefer 25 students, hell yeah, but I would be pretty pissed off if I gave my money and time and was told my kid didn't make the cut. Apparently they are making it work at 32. Good for them.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 11:30 am to Rouge
hell no. There is something to be said for the daily social interaction of school. Seems like home schooling would be taking away a key portion of social development.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 11:32 am to CanShakersDecayedNut
quote:seems like you dont know all that much about home schooling
Seems like home schooling would be taking away a key portion of social development.
you're putting too much into the idea that the ONLY social interaction kids get is in the classroom
Posted on 3/4/08 at 11:34 am to supatigah
I graduated from Baton Rouge High in '03. Educated in the Gifted/Talented program from the beginning. I felt that compared to my friends at the private schools, namely CHS/Episcopal, the top tier of students from both were relatively on the same page, making the cost of private school unnecessary. Albeit, our school did consistently produce greater numbers of National Merit Finalists, all these schools sent students to top ranked schools yearly. But I agree that once you leave the protected environment of those segregated classes, the benefits of a private school, in a solely education viewpoint, outweigh what you could get at a public school. It seemed that a large number of the teachers' main priority was as a track coach and teaching was secondary. Being able to pay more for teachers would allow private schools to recruit better teachers.
Nevertheless, although I'm way too far from this point, I'd rather invest in teaching my kid good study habits from the beginning than in a private school.
Nevertheless, although I'm way too far from this point, I'd rather invest in teaching my kid good study habits from the beginning than in a private school.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 11:38 am to Rouge
La. is at the bottom of national rankings for a reason......there is no comparing the public garbage with the private sector. Period.
I left a North Atlanta school district where it's High School (Sequoia High) was nationally ranked in the top 1000 HS in the nation. 0% federally subsidized meals, 85%+ attending college, etc. Now, that would be a better comparison, but private schools in Atl can run upwards of $20k/year.
My compensation took a hit due to necessary private education here in BR.
BTW, I went to private school and was better b/c of it.
I left a North Atlanta school district where it's High School (Sequoia High) was nationally ranked in the top 1000 HS in the nation. 0% federally subsidized meals, 85%+ attending college, etc. Now, that would be a better comparison, but private schools in Atl can run upwards of $20k/year.
My compensation took a hit due to necessary private education here in BR.
BTW, I went to private school and was better b/c of it.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 11:39 am to Will Cover
If you have the money to spend on a good parochial education, do it, as it has lessons that stay with you for life, that go beyond the great academia. An investment you will be glad you made one day.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 11:40 am to 3rdCoastTiger
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I graduated from Baton Rouge High in '03.
Good thing you weren't into athletics outside of soccer and track. BRHS is nothing like it was.....they've managed to frick it up to.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 11:41 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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If you have the money to spend on a good parochial education, do it, as it has lessons that stay with you for life, that go beyond the great academia. An investment you will be glad you made one day.
BINGO!
Roar, I like the way you think.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 11:46 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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If you have the money to spend on a good parochial education, do it, as it has lessons that stay with you for life, that go beyond the great academia. An investment you will be glad you made one day.
Hell, we don't have the money for it and we're still doing it for that investment. My lifestyle would be a helluva lot different without writing that tuition check every month, but my kids are more than worth it.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 11:56 am to CanShakersDecayedNut
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If you really think BR Diocese schools are bankrolling money somewhere, then you are fairly clueless. The failure in your logic is thinking ANY catholic school system is making money. Also, it was pretty stupid to think the other guy, guttata, had any ties to the BR Catholic Schools in any way.
you are reaching to even think for a second that I believe that the BTR school system is hoarding money.
overvaluing money is a different story, I firmly believe they are guilty of this if what you are saying about the class sizes is true.
26:1 vs 32:1 at $4000 per student (I realize not all of them are paying the full tuition amount, but merely for argument's sake) is $104,000 vs $128,000 of revenue per classroom with the same functional overhead (faculty costs, facility costs, food, etc). So three sections is an extra $72,000 of revenue per grade, 10 grades = $720,000 in revenue more than the equivalent Lafayette Diocese school. So the Baton Rouge schools are bringing in more revenue in a more "congested" learning environment with sky high demand and growth all around them.
A conscious decision was made at some level in BTR to accept more kids, put more burden on their staff and facilities and affect the learning environment instead of raising money, taking on debt and building facilities to keep the integrity of the learning environment intact. With rampant growth and $100/barrel oil now is the time to fix this. If the BTR Diocese Schools are not building to relieve the stress of the enrollments then shame on them. Every Lafayette Diocese School plans on building, is currently building or has built major facility upgrades in the last 5 years. Because the philosophy of maintaining the learning environment in a major growth/high demand period is tantamount to anything else the Lafayette Diocese schools are doing.
this is not dumbass logic, this is putting the kids first above all else
Posted on 3/4/08 at 11:59 am to LSUfan4444
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well i went to both, and i can tell you in my experiences, it wasn't even close
the parents were MUCH more involved in the private sector...
I went to both too and they were WAY more involved at the public school. Probably because the mom's at Fontainebleau (Mandeville) didn't have jobs and shite to do all day as opposed to moms of John Curtis kids.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 12:01 pm to Rouge
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seems like you dont know all that much about home schooling
Couldn't agree more, but I'm not interested in home schooling, so what was the point of the question again?
Posted on 3/4/08 at 12:02 pm to CanShakersDecayedNut
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The Visual and performing arts, I'm guessing, is a very limited magnet school.
If you ain't Black you ain't gettin in............
Posted on 3/4/08 at 12:04 pm to supatigah
dumb logic is throwing out numbers as if you have all the information. You have no idea what the salary structure, true teacher to student ratio (I have told you multiple times now that they have additional reading and math teachers), tuition (it's under 4k), and other overhead is. You are just throwing out numbers trying to prove your point, but those numbers just couldn't be more meaningless.
You also completely ignore the point of the schools finding a way to serve their parishoners.
You also completely ignore the point of the schools finding a way to serve their parishoners.
Posted on 3/4/08 at 12:06 pm to CharlesLSU
This post was edited on 3/6/08 at 9:46 pm
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