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re: Baton Rouge no longer pursuing downtown-LSU tram
Posted on 2/27/18 at 8:51 am to LSUBoo
Posted on 2/27/18 at 8:51 am to LSUBoo
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City buses in general have a negative stigma to them that a tram wouldn't have.
This is sad but true.
I grew up in BR and never rode a city bus until I moved to Austin. Now, I ride them fairly regularly, especially since parking anywhere hear downtown is a huge pain in the arse.
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 8:51 am to King of New Orleans
This was such a stupid idea. The costs "projected" at 170 million would not doubt be far more than that, all for what? A drunk tram ferrying LSU students to and from Third street on the weekends...
We could pay for free UBers for 20 years for all the money they would have wasted
We could pay for free UBers for 20 years for all the money they would have wasted
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 8:52 am
Posted on 2/27/18 at 8:58 am to LouisianaLonghorn
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I'm still waiting to see if the Nicholson corridor develops as well as hoped. There is still a good deal of blight between LSU and downtown, and current city leadership views anything that remotely looks like gentrification as being racist. I'm sorry, but I'm sick to death of the whole "if it doesn't benefit NBR then we can't have it" argument. Nobody wants to go to NBR, and the people that live there won't be paying for it, so why do they even have a say in the matter?
A dynamic and progressive city, which BR has proven it is not, has to deal with growing pains.
One quick drive through NBR and it becomes painfully obvious that not even those living in NBR care to invest in NBR, or else you would see paint on buildings, roofs repaired, cars not parked in yards, grass cut, and people not shooting up the place at night. NOBODY in their right mind would want to actually invest their money in a place that doesnt even value itself.
But you’re right... The fact that these same people want to stand in the way of other people in other parts of the city from placing value on others parts of the city simply because they don’t value shite is revolting.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:05 am to RougeDawg
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Who would use it?
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LSU students going to bars at night?
Yes.
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Gameday transportation for a few times a year?
Yes. More like 7 times a year and the gameday traffic needs help. Although that isn't the main reason to build it, it is a perk.
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Take Uber or Lyft.
Vastly more expensive than a steet car.
They could make this like a New Orleans street car and it would be really cool. It would help downtown a lot I think and the corridor between.
If SWB didn't frick it up, we would've gotten a good bit of federal money for it as well. My dad lives downtown (Beauregard Town) and that area is really starting to blow up. Having a strong downtown and connection to our major university through public transit would serve well in negotiations to attract corporations to move jobs here.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:07 am to el Gaucho
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The less public transportation the better. Criminals that can't afford cars use public transportation to rob nicer neighborhoods
Stupid.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:08 am to el Gaucho
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The less public transportation the better. Criminals that can't afford cars use public transportation to rob nicer neighborhoods
The sad part of this is that I bet you got 10+ upvotes from people that thought it was a serious comment and had no clue it was a troll.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:09 am to King of New Orleans
Mayor Broome is a complete dipshit.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:10 am to upgrayedd
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Eh, once that corridor gets developed, this might be an option again. Of course, we'll have to do 5 more rounds of multimillion dollar studies.
Chicken or egg here.
The street car could've accelerated that development.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:11 am to King of New Orleans
Sounds like somebody's brother-in-law made a few extra bones on some studies...
You know what we need?
More studies.
You know what we need?
More studies.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:12 am to SlackMaster
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Of course not. But, it is a vehicle (pun intended) for growth. In addition to college students, it would be a draw for young professionals just out of college who like to go downtown. It would also make a statement that BR is finally making progress. There are more reasons to do it but you get the point.
So this young professional who just graduated from college is going to leave his residence, drive to LSU or ride his bike to LSU to catch the Tram to go Downtown?
And that is a such a big deal for Downtown that EBR(the local share) needs to spend 85 million to get the Tram?
If so Downtown is in trouble.
And if EBR wanted to make a statement fix I-10, fix the roads, improve the schools, but gimmicks like the Tram aren't sound.
Btw, what cities with a population of 228K have Trams?
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:12 am to Alt26
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The only thing it really does now is shuttle brokedicks around town
Hates that public transportation is available to the public.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:13 am to King of New Orleans
Outside of LSU football gamedays, no one would have used this thing anyway. Baton Rouge should have never wasted so much on the "studies" they did.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:19 am to LSUBoo
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City buses in general have a negative stigma to them that a tram wouldn't have.
Not saying it's an accurate stigma or that a tram wouldn't have the same issues regardless, but it's true.
Bingo.
People in BR look at taking the bus as a sign of being poor. I know when I lived in BR I never took the bus - I was definitely part of the problem in having that mindset.
Now I'll take the bus without a second thought. It's usually faster, more convenient, and I don't have to worry about pain in the arse things like finding parking or refilling the meter (although the fact that's all done on an app now makes it easier.)
The bottom line is, a tram would have been new and exciting and the people you'd want riding it would actually be interested in it. Another bus line will not do that.
And for those saying there's no demand for it are being extremely short-sighted. Just like the city's government.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:21 am to AbitaFan08
Is BR trying to stay small?
This is how a town stays a town.
This is how a town stays a town.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:23 am to T
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Outside of LSU football gamedays, no one would have used this thing anyway. Baton Rouge should have never wasted so much on the "studies" they did.
In the short term you are probably right, but like others have mentioned, it would be a building block for further growth between LSU and downtown.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:24 am to LouisianaLonghorn
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I grew up in BR and never rode a city bus until I moved to Austin. Now, I ride them fairly regularly, especially since parking anywhere hear downtown is a huge pain in the arse.
I'm sorry that you're homeless now
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:29 am to AbitaFan08
BR does need better transit service. However its really hard to justify the cost of a dedicated ROW and rail unless you are: 1) connecting two high use/intensity sites like NOLA airport to NOLA CBD, 2) expanding an existing system such as NYC or DC adding a new line, or 3) adding service to relieve congestion on a high traffic, congested route where transit actually improves peak hour travel time over being in a car and sitting in traffic.
The LSU-downtown route doesn't achieve any of the 3 objectives. Also BRT isn't a bad option and is much, much cheaper. However BRT isn't easy to do and definitely isn't as "sexy" as rails, trams, streetcars, etc.
The LSU-downtown route doesn't achieve any of the 3 objectives. Also BRT isn't a bad option and is much, much cheaper. However BRT isn't easy to do and definitely isn't as "sexy" as rails, trams, streetcars, etc.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:29 am to Oizers
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In the short term you are probably right, but like others have mentioned, it would be a building block for further growth between LSU and downtown.
That's the key. This is a long-term investment.
When Houston added the light rail between downtown and the medical center, it was rarely used by professionals because there were limited places to live along the rail. Now there are a lot of young professionals moving in to apartments in midtown and downtown and riding the rail to and from work. There is also a vibrant and continually growing restaurant and bar scene in north downtown. It took 10-15 years to see results and it wasn't done perfectly, but it's starting to pay off.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 9:33 am
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:31 am to LouisianaLonghorn
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I grew up in BR and never rode a city bus until I moved to Austin.
I've never been on a bus in BR. Honestly I just always assumed that the clientele would be fairly undesirable to be around judging from the people that I see at the bus stops.
Also, the closest bus stop is about 2 miles from my house. So I'm supposed to walk 2 miles in the heat and sweat my arse off to save a few dollars in gas?
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:34 am to ksayetiger
Unrelated long New Orleans street car story
About 15 years ago, I was standing on Canal waiting for a streetcar with my wife (trashy, I know). A bum approached us with sob story that he came to town, got beat up and hospitalized, and needed money for bus fare to get back home. Showed us a healed over scar on his head (looked years old) and old bus ticket that he probably dug out of the trash to legitimize his story.
I knew the story was horseshite, but gave him a dollar I had loose in my pocket so he'd get away from me. Later that night, I saw that same bum riding with us on a different street car-- back then, the fare was a $1 so I guess I paid for his ride. I just smiled.
The encouraging part of the story was while he was delivering his schpiel, no fewer than 3 drivers going by yelled something to the effect of "Hey you f-ing bum, leave those people alone." or "Get away from them". That also made me smile.
About 15 years ago, I was standing on Canal waiting for a streetcar with my wife (trashy, I know). A bum approached us with sob story that he came to town, got beat up and hospitalized, and needed money for bus fare to get back home. Showed us a healed over scar on his head (looked years old) and old bus ticket that he probably dug out of the trash to legitimize his story.
I knew the story was horseshite, but gave him a dollar I had loose in my pocket so he'd get away from me. Later that night, I saw that same bum riding with us on a different street car-- back then, the fare was a $1 so I guess I paid for his ride. I just smiled.
The encouraging part of the story was while he was delivering his schpiel, no fewer than 3 drivers going by yelled something to the effect of "Hey you f-ing bum, leave those people alone." or "Get away from them". That also made me smile.
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