- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Baton Rouge no longer pursuing downtown-LSU tram
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:24 am to Dire Wolf
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:24 am to Dire Wolf
quote:
Why do people think the tram/subway experience is any better than a bus?
As someone who uses both frequently, I can tell you that a subway is flat out better than a bus.
More reliable schedule, less frequent stops, smoother ride, no worries about catching lights or traffic.
2
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:25 am to AbitaFan08
Exactly. Busses suck because they share the same travel lanes with cars, meaning they will ALWAYS be slower than driving. Subways and proper light rail projects don’t. They have dedicated travel ways that agoid traffic lights and accidents meaning they at least have the possibility to be faster than driving.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:26 am to Powerman
quote:
The stupid things people believe
You're right. Nobody gets pickpocketed or robbed on public tranportation. Only nice and wealthy people use public transportation.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:27 am to King of New Orleans
Will there be one from downtown to north BR?
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:31 am to OweO
Supposedly, a later phase was going to extend the tram to BTR and Southern in the north, LaBerge to the South, and BRCC to the East (this leg would include a stop at the BR/NOLA train station).
The problem is two-fold:
1. Incompetent corrupt officials we can’t trust with our money to design, build, manage, or maintain infrastructure properly
2. Short sighted yokles who see phase 1 of 1 part of a much larger plan and can’t see how the pieces fit together. They can’t see a future need. They can’t see how one piece can get the rest up and running. They can’t see that while their neighborhood isn’t a part of this phase, it could benefit big time in future phases. They delay and want the development before the infrastructure and then b$tch years later about how expensive new infrastructure is.
The problem is two-fold:
1. Incompetent corrupt officials we can’t trust with our money to design, build, manage, or maintain infrastructure properly
2. Short sighted yokles who see phase 1 of 1 part of a much larger plan and can’t see how the pieces fit together. They can’t see a future need. They can’t see how one piece can get the rest up and running. They can’t see that while their neighborhood isn’t a part of this phase, it could benefit big time in future phases. They delay and want the development before the infrastructure and then b$tch years later about how expensive new infrastructure is.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 10:43 am
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:35 am to Oizers
quote:
In the short term you are probably right, but like others have mentioned, it would be a building block for further growth between LSU and downtown.
I could understand it if there was a major residential area being connected to a major business area, but what good would a team connecting downtown to lsu do? Lsu students go to class at LSU, not downtown. People who work downtown do not live on LSU's campus. .
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:38 am to dixiechick
quote:
Exactly!!! We don’t another one. Subsidized riders, car sharing, bike sharing, charging stations... the tram is a never ending system of bleeding taxpayers dry.
Wow. Sounds like you think BR is great just as it is.
You do realize that programs such as ride sharing, bike sharing, charging stations for electric-powered vehicles, dedicated bike lanes, and even trams are present in some of the most progressive and vibrant cities in America.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:40 am to T
As downtown continues to add housing, a lot of students are moving downtown.
Students are increasingly going downtown to drink.
A ton of apartments for students and recent grads are going up along nicholson between campus and downtown.
This would also connect the water campus to downtown and LSU where many of their researchers also work and live.
Students are increasingly going downtown to drink.
A ton of apartments for students and recent grads are going up along nicholson between campus and downtown.
This would also connect the water campus to downtown and LSU where many of their researchers also work and live.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:41 am to kingbob
quote:
1. Incompetent corrupt officials we can’t trust with our money to design, build, manage, or maintain infrastructure properly 2. Short sighted yokles who see phase 1 of 1 part of a much larger plan and can’t see how the pieces fit together. They can’t see a future need. They can’t see how one piece can get the rest up and running. They delay and want the development before the infrastructure and then b$tch years later about how expensive new infrastructure is.
Yep. Baton Rouge has both of these in abundance.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:43 am to T
quote:
I could understand it if there was a major residential area being connected to a major business area, but what good would a team connecting downtown to lsu do? Lsu students go to class at LSU, not downtown. People who work downtown do not live on LSU's campus. .
You're focusing on what the current dynamic of downtown is. Part of the tram's purpose would be as a catalyst to grow downtown.
In other words, the tram doesn't have to be built because there's already a need. Building the tram can help create the need.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:47 am to kingbob
quote:
As downtown continues to add housing, a lot of students are moving downtown.
Students are increasingly going downtown to drink.
A ton of apartments for students and recent grads are going up along nicholson between campus and downtown.
This would also connect the water campus to downtown and LSU where many of their researchers also work and live.
None of this is in North BR, though. Investment in the wrong part of town.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:51 am to kingbob
quote:
This was just one part of a wider plan to tie NOLA and BR together
No it isn't. The Tram had nothing to do with the train to NO. The Tram was all about connecting LSU with Downtown. Sure you could add onto the Tram system but it was all pie in the sky. It never made much sense to me because I could never see the demand; nor the practicality of it.
quote:but the Tram would never serve the BR metro area unless there were major additions and the BR metro area isn't dense enough or big enough to support a Billion dollar Tram system connecting the bar entire area. You are talking about an area that includes BR, Donaldsonville, Zachary. Port Allen, Central, Gonzales, Walker, Plaquemine and St Gabriel.
BR has a metropolitan area of around 800k with NOLA over a million.
If it costs 170 million for a 3 mile line what would it cost for a Tram to connect towns on the Westbank, Zachary/Airport, DS/Walker/Central/Baker and areas south of LSU like St. G even if the main line connected BR with NO?
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:53 am to kingbob
Do you have a link to the "plan" to connect the metro area with a tramway?
It would be useful for discussion.
It would be useful for discussion.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:56 am to T
quote:
I could understand it if there was a major residential area being connected to a major business area, but what good would a team connecting downtown to lsu do? Lsu students go to class at LSU, not downtown. People who work downtown do not live on LSU's campus. .
Exactly what I've been thinking. Sure there are some that would make the trip, but they are basically taking two different entities and saying they need to be connected when there isn't a big reason for doing that.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:56 am to Mike da Tigah
quote:
I knew damn well BR had no desire for a vibrant downtown or a way to connect LSU to Downtown and make it a viable community worth investing in. This place is so far behind the eight ball it’s ridiculous. Small town, small minds, water is wet.
Please tell me what purpose would that tram serve? Drunk 19 year olds loading up the thing at 2am pissed off that they didn't pull any arse is what. That stupid thing would have been empty 20 hours out of the day. This is the first good thing I believe the Mayor has done
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:56 am to AbitaFan08
aren't there plans to turn chase south tower into some kind of commercial development.
would of been nice for both sides if a tram could have transported people back and forth.
oh well.
would of been nice for both sides if a tram could have transported people back and forth.
oh well.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:03 am to PaperPaintball92
quote:
You're right. Nobody gets pickpocketed or robbed on public tranportation. Only nice and wealthy people use public transportation.
How about not being a careless dumbass?
Maybe you shouldn't leave the house?
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:06 am to jefforize
quote:
aren't there plans to turn chase south tower into some kind of commercial development.
would of been nice for both sides if a tram could have transported people back and forth.
oh well.
Back and forth to where? Tiger Stadium to The Chase Building?
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:07 am to T
.... LSU and downtown
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:14 am to AbitaFan08
quote:
Building the tram can help create the need.
The old build it and they will come strategy.
The problem is with limited resources (EBR has to come up with an 85 million dollar match if the Feds give us the other half), if we did have the money there are other things EBR needs far greater than building a Tram in hopes it stimulates the overall economy.
And remember the initial outlay of 170 million (local+Federal) is to build the system, operating costs and expenses would have to be subsidized by taxpayers on a yearly basis.
Page 5 of 9
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News