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re: Baton Rouge Homes At Risk from Hurricane Storm Surge

Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by poops_at_parties
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:44 pm to
It's because a strong category 3 hurricane, coming in at the right speed from the right angle, will push enough surge into Pontratrain then into Maurepas, which will lead to MAJOR backwater flooding on the Amite and subsequently the Comite.

It would, at minimum, be a repeat of August and at worse, be 5-10 times as bad.

The worst case scenario would involve this happening 2-4 days after a prolonged 10-15 inches of rain event over EBR, Livingston, and into the Felicianas.

That scenario would make Katrina look like child's play.

It can happen, it's just very, very unlikely.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 4:45 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139226 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:48 pm to
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Except that isn't what happened

The backing up of the diversion canal and the drainage features the feed it didn't cause back flooding?
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26334 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

I would imagine they're basing all this on the storm surge backing up Maurepas, Pontchartrain, and the diversion canal thus creating an situation similar to the 2016 flood.


But a storm that caused a major surge to go through Lake P and into Maurepas would be centered further to the east, around New Orleans. So BR would be on the west side (drier side) of the hurricane.
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
3101 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:51 pm to
Well, I think all would agree its a pretty poorly written article since it gave very little explanation as to why 100K homes would be at risk when BTR is more than 100 miles inland.
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
3259 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

It would, at minimum, be a repeat of August and at worse, be 5-10 times as bad.



5-10 times as bad? I don't believe you.

Posted by poops_at_parties
Member since Jan 2016
1545 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:58 pm to
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5-10 times as bad? I don't believe you.

In the scenario I described, I would be right. Imagine all that rainwater trying to drain down the Amite and Comite rivers at the same time a 17-20' surge races up the Amite from Lake Maurepas. Homes that had 4 feet of water in August would be completely under water. Roof and all.

Keep in mind I'm not saying the hurricane would have to be a once-in-a-lifetime type of hurricane like Katrina was. It would simply have to come in at the right angle at the right time. Such as at high tide and 2 days after a prolonged 10-15 inch of rain type of event.

The weather patterns that would have to be in place to allow for something to be stalled out over us, giving us the required amount of rain, then also allowing for a strong 3 to come in from the right angle would be almost unheard of because it would have to change drastically within 24 hours for it to happen. My point is, it can happen.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 5:02 pm
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
14079 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 5:29 pm to
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Surge from Katrina flooded BR?



Or you dumb or just play that way on TV?

Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30205 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

If a storm pushes a 20 foot storm surge above sea level, how the frick does it reach a city located 30 to 50 feet above sea level?


The study is based on a slow-moving low category storm that pushes water up the Amite and dumps a ton of water upstream. Water falls upstream and can't get out.

It should really be called "surge-related," but whatever.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:42 pm to
Let's do a study. Pay me 20 million to declare that if we just dug a canal from the comite to the MS river everything will be fine.

For an extra 20 million I will throw in a study that will explain the need to expand I10 to two lanes at Washington St exit.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 6:43 pm
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70130 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:44 pm to
that would have to be a category 5 hurricane when it arrives on shore and by the time the eye area hits baton rouge it would be a 3.

the levees would have to collapse.

everything would have to go wrong in order for this to happen.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
20742 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:45 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 6:49 pm
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:49 pm to
It's a scenario that pushes surge into the Amite from the lakes. The Amite and it's tributaries would back up like last summer. With the rain from the hurricane, it would be like last summer but with no outlet for the flood waters.

It would take a slow moving storm coming in at the right angle, so it's a really unlikely scenario.
Posted by bakersman
Shreveport
Member since Apr 2011
6033 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

Mississippi River? Storm surge isn't going to travel 100 miles upriver.


230 miles from the mouth to BR. That would take a noa's arc kinda of storm surge
Posted by joeytiger
Muh Mom's House
Member since Jul 2012
6037 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:37 pm to
Baton Rouge could use a good cleansing.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178333 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:43 pm to
100% bullshite
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

Homes that had 4 feet of water in August would be completely under water. Roof and all


No.

The storm surge would impact the lower Amite basin and Maurepas and homes in that area less than 12' above sea level. This is is an entirely different threat than 2016, where the source of the water was upriver. The dynamics of any flooding would be entirely different.

Lower Ascension and Livingston may see some impacts of storm surge. Denham and Baton Rouge would not. Their concerns would be wind, flying debris, and localized flooding caused by heavy rainfall like it usually is for them with hurricanes.

It is roughly the same risk of Baton Rouge being flooded by storm surge as being paralyzed by a blizzard.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 8:54 pm
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3934 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 9:08 pm to
Y'all need to shut your mouths and not jinx us. '83 would never happen, Katrina would never happen, 2016 type flood would never happen, nothing is going to go wrong at work today...<<< all things people said that happened
Posted by Tony The Tiger
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2003
2744 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 9:44 pm to
Fake news
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1067 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 9:56 pm to
quote:


I would assume the risk is due to the river being so high?


Mississippi River? Storm surge isn't going to travel 100 miles upriver.


It has nothing to do with storm surge moving 100 miles. If the river can't flow downstream, it will rise... The distance the storm surge travels would be irrelevant.
Posted by White Bear
Homeless
Member since Jul 2014
17815 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:13 am to
quote:

Or you dumb or just play that way on TV?
Say what?
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