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Baton Rouge eyes gigantic federal grant to boost Ardendale with housing, retail
Posted on 9/5/18 at 6:34 am
Posted on 9/5/18 at 6:34 am
I hope it works out for the area as mall city a huge crime ridden thorn in that part of city.
I am leaning toward a huge money pit for tax payers.
How much does Integral make on this and which political group are they connected to?
Huge red flag!
“You’ve heard a lot about people transforming the neighborhood,” said Marvin Nesbitt, one of the consultants for Integral Group, which is helping to write the grant application. “Let’s be clear, this is about changing the lives of people.”
It seems like a money pit like Bon Carrie. It was the first indoor mall redeveloped in Baton Rouge to spruce up the area. Seemed like a good idea and years down the road it is a money pit.
If I am correct did anyone notice that the BRAF or a group connected to them recently default on a $39 million loan for Bon Carre in the same area?
Legit argument
It does seem like a decent idea since BRCC around the corner. Lower middle class area that could develope into a nice area if it gentrfies.
Reality
As long as a certain percentage of our wonderful NBR welcoming committee members live in the area this area will not gentrify.
I wonder if our lovely Mayor will do a study?
If so will it cost
A) $299,999
B) $300,001
Or
C) $300,000
LINK
Then add the local NBR residents pushing for their agendas.
A number of the meeting attendees asked about the lack of grocery stores and fresh foods in the area and said they hope the investment will result in one.
Sad but it will be another money pit.
I am leaning toward a huge money pit for tax payers.
How much does Integral make on this and which political group are they connected to?
Huge red flag!
“You’ve heard a lot about people transforming the neighborhood,” said Marvin Nesbitt, one of the consultants for Integral Group, which is helping to write the grant application. “Let’s be clear, this is about changing the lives of people.”
It seems like a money pit like Bon Carrie. It was the first indoor mall redeveloped in Baton Rouge to spruce up the area. Seemed like a good idea and years down the road it is a money pit.
If I am correct did anyone notice that the BRAF or a group connected to them recently default on a $39 million loan for Bon Carre in the same area?
Legit argument
It does seem like a decent idea since BRCC around the corner. Lower middle class area that could develope into a nice area if it gentrfies.
Reality
As long as a certain percentage of our wonderful NBR welcoming committee members live in the area this area will not gentrify.
I wonder if our lovely Mayor will do a study?
If so will it cost
A) $299,999
B) $300,001
Or
C) $300,000
LINK
Then add the local NBR residents pushing for their agendas.
A number of the meeting attendees asked about the lack of grocery stores and fresh foods in the area and said they hope the investment will result in one.
Sad but it will be another money pit.
This post was edited on 9/5/18 at 10:05 am
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Posted on 9/5/18 at 6:36 am to johnnyrocket
The area could work as a community college campus or a business park with flex space for distribution centers and light manufacturing. That would bring some jobs to an area that needs them.
North Baton Rouge doesn’t want to hear that though.
Almost everything else will likely fail on that spot, especially the housing and retail they want to throw together.
And why should taxpayers subsidize a grocery store there when the original Hi Nabor has been operating only 5 minutes away for decades without subsidies?
North Baton Rouge doesn’t want to hear that though.
Almost everything else will likely fail on that spot, especially the housing and retail they want to throw together.
And why should taxpayers subsidize a grocery store there when the original Hi Nabor has been operating only 5 minutes away for decades without subsidies?
This post was edited on 9/5/18 at 6:52 am
Posted on 9/5/18 at 6:42 am to dewster
Burn the rats out. Until you purge the cancer from the area nothing good can grow
Posted on 9/5/18 at 6:53 am to fr33manator
Mall City behind Bonne Carre needs to be torn down completely.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 7:09 am to dewster
More grocery stores will solve everything!
Posted on 9/5/18 at 7:15 am to johnnyrocket
quote:$390 million dollar loan
$39 million dollar loan
$3.9 billion dollar loan
It wouldn’t be discernible after 10 years.
And it won’t be paid back. “Loan”, that’s funny.
Throwing money at the issues in Ardendale is like trying to bail out the ocean with a coffee cup.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 7:19 am to PetroBabich
Very constructive criticism.
The amount of blight scattered throughout Baton Rouge is a real problem. I like the idea of trying to build the community from the ground up. Put children on a path to success and offer skill training to help people that can’t or shouldn’t go to college.
The whole is only as good as the sum of its parts. Most people have given up on on the low income areas, but we can’t continue to ignore these problems.
The amount of blight scattered throughout Baton Rouge is a real problem. I like the idea of trying to build the community from the ground up. Put children on a path to success and offer skill training to help people that can’t or shouldn’t go to college.
The whole is only as good as the sum of its parts. Most people have given up on on the low income areas, but we can’t continue to ignore these problems.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 7:23 am to johnnyrocket
quote:
I wonder if our lovely Mayor will do a study?
If so will it cost
A) $299,999
B) $300,001
Or
C) $300,000
I personally think you are just about $50,000 low on your estimate.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 7:25 am to dewster
quote:
And why should taxpayers subsidize a grocery store there when the original Hi Nabor has been operating only 5 minutes away for decades without subsidies?
Isn't there an Alberstson's on Florida and Foster?
Posted on 9/5/18 at 7:28 am to CoachChappy
Government and Foster but, yes, close enough.
This post was edited on 9/5/18 at 7:29 am
Posted on 9/5/18 at 7:28 am to Bmath
quote:Because we’ve been throwing tax dollars at these problems like we’re at a titty bar on payday, with no positive results. I’m all for educational funding and trade programs. Those are actual investments in a community’s future, but building a grocery store isn’t going to bring down violent crime.
Most people have given up on on the low income areas, but we can’t continue to ignore these problems.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 7:28 am to Boudreaux35
You got me on the cost of the study.
It should be $350,000 or three fifty.
It should be $350,000 or three fifty.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 7:33 am to johnnyrocket
quote:
A number of the meeting attendees asked about the lack of grocery stores and fresh foods in the area and said they hope the investment will result in one.
That area is less than 2 miles from Whole Foods and just over 2 miles from Albertson's on Government.
I think the closest store to my house is about 2 miles. I live in a food desert!!
Posted on 9/5/18 at 7:40 am to fallguy_1978
2 Miles is a long way if you don’t have a car. Nevertheless, I think some of the food desert talk is overblown. There was also a recent study that showed when low income families have access to fresh food options, that they avoid them.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 7:52 am to Bmath
quote:
2 Miles is a long way if you don’t have a car.
BR has never been a walkable city. There's going to be a lot of things that are inconvenient if you don't have a car.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:09 am to Bmath
quote:
The whole is only as good as the sum of its parts. Most people have given up on on the low income areas, but we can’t continue to ignore these problems.
Parts of it will be gentrified.
Florida Blvd corridor east of downtown and Highland/Nicholson south of downtown will happen before north BR though.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:15 am to Bmath
quote:
2 Miles is a long way if you don’t have a car.
I have to ask, how many grocery stores is the government supposed to build with my tax dollars? Every 1.5 square mile, every 0.5 mile? At what point will the Takers be satisfied?
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:21 am to jbgleason
Zero grocery stores. More efficient public transportation would be a nice start.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:22 am to jbgleason
They’ll be satisfied when they can steal groceries from next door and the store will stay open.
Grocery stores operate on high turnover of low price margin stuff. A high rate of pilfered or tampered merchandise means they have to raise the price on everything to cover it. At which point people boycott the store crying racism.
All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again.
Grocery stores operate on high turnover of low price margin stuff. A high rate of pilfered or tampered merchandise means they have to raise the price on everything to cover it. At which point people boycott the store crying racism.
All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:26 am to jbgleason
I think we will need grocery store every 3/4 of a mile and sidewalks leading away from it in four directions, a bus stop at each store, and a train station at every other one.
Feds are paying, won't cost us anything.
Feds are paying, won't cost us anything.
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