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re: Baton Rouge / dehnam area - missing 15 yo girl

Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:00 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:00 am to
The War on Sex Trafficking is the new War on Drugs

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Forcing others into sex or any sort of labor is abhorrent, and it deserves to be treated like the serious violation it is. But the activity now targeted under anti-trafficking efforts includes everything from offering or soliciting paid sex, to living with a sex worker, to running a classified advertising website.

What's more, these new laws aren't organic responses by legislators in the face of an uptick in human trafficking activity or inadequate current statutes. They are in large part the result of a decades-long anti-prostitution crusade from Christian "abolitionists" and anti-sex feminists, pushed along by officials who know a good political opportunity when they see it and by media that never met a moral panic they didn't like.

The fire is fueled by federal money, which sends police departments and activist groups into a grant-grubbing frenzy. The anti-trafficking movement is "just one big federal grant program," Michael Hudson, a scholar with the conservative Hudson Institute, told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. "Everybody is more worried about where they're going to get their next grant" than helping victims, Hudson said.


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For instance, Rep. Joyce Beatty (D–Ohio) declared in a May statement that "in the U.S., some 300,000 children are at risk each year for commercial sexual exploitation." Rep. Ann Wagner (R–Mo.) made a similar statement that month at a congressional hearing, claiming the statistic came from the Department of Justice (DOJ). The New York Times has also attributed this number to the DOJ, while Fox News raised the number to 400,000 and sourced it to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). But not only are these not DOJ or HHS figures, they're based on 1990s data published in a non-peer-reviewed paper that the primary researcher, Richard Estes, no longer endorses.


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A 2010 study from Rutgers University professors James Finckenauer and Ko-lin Chin took an in-depth look at Chinese women working in America's illicit massage parlors, which are routinely denounced by politicians as hotbeds of sexual slavery. Indeed, Finckenauer noted that 93 percent of the women he interviewed would be considered sex trafficking victims under common legal definitions, which include any person who arrives in a foreign country for sex work regardless of whether force or coercion is involved. Yet not one of the 149 Chinese women interviewed said she was sold into prostitution, and only one reported being forced or coerced into it. "There is more diversity among the parties involved in prostitution than is commonly supposed, and to portray them all in the same way as victims is an oversimplification," the researchers concluded.


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Sixty-eight percent of minors engaged in street-based prostitution in New York City say they've sought help from youth services organizations, according to Kate D'Adamo of the Sex Workers Project. "New York City funds roughly 200 beds for a population of 4,000 unaccompanied, homeless youth," D'Adamo told TechCrunch. "When all the beds are full, it is street economies like the sex trade which they turn to in order to provide basic needs. If we want to identify the most vulnerable, all we have to do is provide support when someone stands up and says 'I need a place to sleep tonight.'"

Instead, we fund police task forces to monitor Internet ads for weeks in search of suspect code words or tattoos. We pass laws mandating more prison time for pimps. We set up elaborate sting operations for both sex workers and their customers. We hang "Are you being trafficked?" signs at strip clubs and highway rest stops, and train airport staff on how they can spot the signs of sex trafficking. We act as if sex traffickers are organized, jet-setting, diabolical, and legion. We are chasing our own mythology, to the detriment of actual results.
Posted by 19
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:02 am to
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Well, if this unfortunate girl ends up in Houston.....


If you get caught taking a minor (17 is still a minor in Tx) across state lines without parental/legal guardian permission, in THIS state, you are in deep, deep shite.

Remember, in Tx, the JURY picks the sentence...in capital murder trials, anyway.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:03 am to
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We hang "Are you being trafficked?" signs at strip clubs and highway rest stops, and train airport staff on how they can spot the signs of sex trafficking. We act as if sex traffickers are organized, jet-setting, diabolical, and legion. We are chasing our own mythology, to the detriment of actual results.


I started noticing the sex trafficking signs in airports after the movie Taken became popular. Coincidence?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:04 am to
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Coincidence?

not at all

these organizations have to create a monster to keep the money flowing. that means they always have to find angles to promote their causes, and popular media is always a great way to free ride the zeitgeist of the public.
Posted by 19
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:07 am to
I agree with all that.

It isn't a Hollywood network of well-funded traffickers actually TAKING the kids...it's local crackheads looking to make a golden goose out of a young girl to support their own addiction by creating another junkie.

Once these kids get hooked up with anything remotley organized...they volunteer. Walk right in the front door willingly.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:09 am to
If I was her parent whether she voluntarily left with this scum arse or not I promise you I make it so Monica scumbag would never be able to walk or eat normally again.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:12 am to
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It isn't a Hollywood network of well-funded traffickers actually TAKING the kids...it's local crackheads looking to make a golden goose out of a young girl to support their own addiction by creating another junkie.

but even that is rare

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Between 2008 and 2010, federally funded task forces investigated 2,515 suspected incidents of human trafficking, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. An "investigation" was defined as "any effort in which the task force spent at least one hour investigating" the incident. Of these cases, only 6 percent led to arrests. From 2007 to fall 2008, federal dollars funded 38 sex-trafficking task forces, of which 15 found no confirmed victims or suspects, 14 reported between one and four cases, and nine reported more than five. Of the total 1,229 suspected incidents that year, sex cops found just 14 underage victims.


it's just not a smart economical decision for a "pimp" to use a minor. this is almost always an individual economic decision for runaways b/c it's just easy money given their economic opportunities. when your life is literally a black market, your only avenues will be within that market

these days with the internet and social media apps, pimps aren't nearly as necessary
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:13 am to
I think that you and I may differ on the definition of "coerced/slavery"

I'm sure there aren't many child sex workers who have been violently bonded into that life.

In the sport I coach, we are taught how victims can be "groomed" for abuse and manipulation. We are taught the telltale signs of grooming and how to set policies in place to prevent coaches from having that power over a victim.

Grooming a victim doesn't require violence but can nonetheless place a victim in a sort of psychological bondage where the victim sees no alternative to "get by" without relying on their abuser.

Predators groom troubled teens for future manipulation by feeding the child's hatred for rules and enabling drug abuse and risky sex.

The key is not letting predators hold power whether violent or psychological over their victims.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 10:16 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:19 am to
i know what grooming is

read that article. they go into other studies/ops where the rate of finding underage sex workers is RARE

this whole mythology is just a way for (1) government to insidiously attack adult prostitution and (2) NGOs to keep getting funding by creating a monster that they must study and offer policy towards
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:23 am to
Those law enforcement agencies have to go after something so they can keep their bloated budgets intact. Especially now that the weed cash cow is slowly disappearing.

We have had several defendant growers walk at trial on state charges using the medicinal defense even before the medicinal amendment was passed. I know the local sheriffs didn't like that. How are they going to justify having an Apache helicopter if they can't bust those dangerous weed growers?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:24 am to
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How are they going to justify having an Apache helicopter if they can't bust those dangerous weed growers?

there is like a rolodex of mythological "bad guys"

i, for one, can't wait for the Satanic Panic to come back in style
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:32 am to
It's not just government agencies trying to create a monster. The trafficking ball in BR is a big event to be seen at. Lots of groups feed off of it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:35 am to
it's one of those issues that they've structured the discussion so skewed that it's almost impossible to discuss irl. people lose their fricking shite over it. since it involves sex, it also has that auto "i bet you only attack this because you want to have sex [insert victim]" response
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:43 am to
Guys I know who have been forced to go by their wives either keep quiet or lay it on with the "it's such an important cause."

I only know one who went but flat out told his wife it's a made up cause.
Posted by kanibal
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:57 am to
Was she found?
Posted by tigerbutt
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Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 6:18 am to
Any updates?
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