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re: Back to school: do you have enough teachers?

Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:22 pm to
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I’ll say it. Teachers are full of shite. They espouse ‘doing it for the kids’ but at the end it’s really about money and their own well being. Probably my most loathed group of ‘professionals’ in America.


You can still want to earn a respectable paycheck and be treated like an adult while also “doing it for the kids”.

Go step into an inner city, public school classroom for awhile and put up with the lack of discipline and support then get back at me how long “doing it for the kids” will work for you.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:22 pm to
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Go step into an inner city, public school classroom for awhile and put up with the lack of discipline and support then get back at me how long “doing it for the kids” will work for you.


No. I don’t like kids. That’s why I’m not a teacher.
This post was edited on 8/6/22 at 4:23 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106044 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:24 pm to
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Could you imagine if they had to work 12 Months out of the year? It would kill them


Teachers I know who have recently left the profession have gone on to be:

Dentist
Curriculum advisor for private sector
Plumber
Corporate jobs at Verizon, Humana, etc.

All are much happier, less stressed, and making more money.
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:25 pm to
The less teachers the less taxpayers have to give to the leeches

Hopefully they all dissappear
Posted by LSUguy2023
St. George
Member since Oct 2021
2967 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:28 pm to
Suspending kids, especially a certain demographic , is racist, despite said demographic causing the majority problems.

Expelling kids, especially a certain demographic, is racist, despite said demographic causing the majority of problems.

I have had several administrators from all types of high schools straight up tell me “we can’t suspend or expel XXX for always fighting or bringing drugs to school or cursing at a teacher bc XXX is black and it is viewed as racist since that’s their culture and the way they were raised and it’s not their fault.”
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:29 pm to
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I’ll say it. Teachers are full of shite. They espouse ‘doing it for the kids’ but at the end it’s really about money and their own well being. Probably my most loathed group of ‘professionals’ in America.




I enjoy most of the kids or I wouldn’t still be doing it after 27 years. However, I’ve seen things steadily deteriorate for awhile. I’m not one of these “you could never do what I do” people, nor am I an “I love doing this so much, I’d do it for free”. Both of those groups are liars and don’t exist in reality unless they’re crazy.
This post was edited on 8/6/22 at 5:06 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106044 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:30 pm to
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I was having a discussion with a colleague about whether or not our country may be forced to transition away from on-site, school based education. COVID allowed everyone to see what this would look like.


They opened a virtual site during COVID that was previously limited in enrollment. A lot of folks have opted for it.

I’ll be honest, I’m not above handing disciplinary issues a log in ID and password and telling their parents to figure it out at this point.

quote:

I don’t know. There would have to be some major changes in a whole bunch of areas to sustain the system that we currently have, imo. People just don’t want to do this job anymore, for a myriad of reasons.


Some of it that would help immediately is cutting the red tape of PLC meetings, after school meetings, bullshite PDs, etc. But they won’t even consider that.
Posted by BengalShark
Member since Jul 2017
4150 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:30 pm to
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We don’t need no education.


Who needs an education when we have LeBron to tell us what to think.

What a joke
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21431 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:30 pm to
Not lying. Sorry you live in a poor area. We pay our public school teachers well.

LINK

This post was edited on 8/6/22 at 4:34 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41857 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:41 pm to
People are retiring earlier than they normally would. I don’t blame them. One “frick up” and the woke supremacists can get you canned.

Throw in the fact that students basically aren’t allowed to be disciplined if the are designated as “students with exceptionalities,” and you have anyone with any semblance of common sense bailing out.
Posted by LCLa
Member since Apr 2017
4380 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:50 pm to
That would be racist of course
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:51 pm to
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People are retiring earlier than they normally would. I don’t blame them. One “frick up” and the woke supremacists can get you canned.

Throw in the fact that students basically aren’t allowed to be disciplined if the are designated as “students with exceptionalities,” and you have anyone with any semblance of common sense bailing out.


The teachers are the ones that vote for all that stuff
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94747 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:51 pm to
When they start paying teachers enough to put up with these little bastard kids and their ungrateful parents, they’ll have more sign up for the job.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:56 pm to
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When they start paying teachers enough to put up with these little bastard kids and their ungrateful parents, they’ll have more sign up for the job.


Pay is such a nonstarter in this argument, as it will only be brought up again down the line. There’s a pay ceiling that a HS teacher or lesser should make. They’re already afforded enough benefits.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59345 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 5:01 pm to
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The teachers are the ones that vote for all that stuff


You have no idea what you’re talking about, at least as far as Louisiana is concerned.
Posted by nuwaydawg
Member since Nov 2007
2112 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 5:04 pm to
We don't need no thought control.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41857 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

The teachers are the ones that vote for all that stuff


Tell that to the ones that are leaving in droves.

Your take may carry weight in big cities, but not elsewhere.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59345 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 5:07 pm to
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We don't need no thought control.


Sorry, but you’re going to get some dark sarcasm in my classroom.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45254 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 5:08 pm to
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Orrrr they can no longer afford to live in the area where they work on that salary? That can’t go far at all in the Tampa/St Pete area.


Rents have doubled since the great Brandon experiment. What was $700 6 years ago was $1100 in 2020, and is $22-2300 now.
Posted by moontigr
Commanders/LA Kings/Detroit Tigers
Member since Nov 2020
6971 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 5:26 pm to
I received a bonus to teach in EBR in 1998 due to teacher shortage. It was shitshow then and it's an even bigger shitshow now. Nothing has changed. Glad I got out when I did.
This post was edited on 8/6/22 at 5:28 pm
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