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re: Back to Floyd... what took so long to get him in the car
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:45 pm to tigerinthebueche
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:45 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Call a spade a spade.
Is that racist or something and I didn't know?
I thought that was just a benign phrase.
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:45 pm to Hamma1122
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Would love to see if Chauvin is so tough without his badge
not many of them are.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:45 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I've heard several cops ask this question on TV and radio as well.
According to them, unanimously, what Chauvin did was against training and protocol. He killed that guy, plain and simple.
Call a spade a spade.
4 downvotes to this? would any of you 4 like to say why??? I'd guess not
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:46 pm to oreeg
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I heard that they were waiting for a police car that could transport the suspect because all the cars on scene didn't have the capability.
you mean 4 men couldn't pick him up and get him into an SUV? tha frick outta here with that dumb nonsense
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:49 pm to TutHillTiger
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Yes Sir. It’s in the glove box. I have a permit.
Reaches to give permit and hand over the weapon.
Wasn’t the cop telling him not to move his hands & he did?
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"I told him not to reach for it," an officer claimed in the Facebook video. "I told him to get his hand out."
Officer was cleared in shooting
LINK
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:50 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Officer frick-face murdered that man.
Maybe. Going to have to await the autopsy and toxicology before completely buying into this.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:51 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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Why did they ever take him out of the car after he was already in the backseat?
I’d assume he wasn’t in a secure position in the car. When they talk about him resisting that probably where it took place. Even cuffed, in close proximity like that someone can cause a pretty big ruckus if they want to.
Wish they would’ve just said frick it and went without the seatbelt.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:52 pm to baybeefeetz
With 4(FOUR) other officers there, I see zero reason it would have been a problem getting him in the car.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:58 pm to dukke v
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With 4(FOUR) other officers there, I see zero reason it would have been a problem getting him in the car.
assuming the access from the rear of the SUV is blocked off to the back seat (b/c prevent escape risk)...
you think you can fit 4 officers and an unruly suspect all in the back seat of a vehicle... to force him into a seat and be seat belted in?
seems like a rather small space to fit all that... esp. if 1 of them is actively fighting
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:58 pm to SloaneRanger
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Maybe. Going to have to await the autopsy and toxicology before completely buying into this.
Kneeling on a guy's neck for 3 minutes after he goes limp isn't enough for you?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 1:01 pm to SloaneRanger
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Maybe. Going to have to await the autopsy and toxicology before completely buying into this.
Ok, let me kneel on your neck for 10 minutes; choking you to death and/or cutting off the blood flow to your head completely sober.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 1:09 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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How anybody could downvote this post in what I would assume is disagreement is beyond me. Officer frick-face murdered that man.
People are down voting because part of it is incorrect. "What Chauvin did was against training"
In the past 5 years, that police force has done that 237 times, 16% of the time the suspect was rendered unconscious. This is an entire police department failure.
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Since the beginning of 2015, officers from the Minneapolis Police Department have rendered people unconscious with neck restraints 44 times, according to an NBC News analysis of police records. Several police experts said that number appears to be unusually high.
Minneapolis police used neck restraints at least 237 times during that span, and in 16 percent of the incidents the suspects and other individuals lost consciousness, the department's use-of-force records show.
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The version of the Minneapolis Police Department's policy manual that is available on-line, however, does permit the use of neck restraints that can render suspects unconscious, and the protocol for their use has not been updated for more than eight years.
Minneapolis police data shows that in the bulk of use-of-force cases involving neck restraints when an individual lost consciousness, the restraint was used after a suspect fled on foot or tensed up as they were being taken into custody. Almost half of the people who lost consciousness were injured, according to the reports, which do not spell out the severity of those injuries
The Minn police department uses neck retraints
Posted on 6/1/20 at 1:16 pm to baybeefeetz
Posted on 6/1/20 at 1:20 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Kneeling on a guy's neck for 3 minutes after he goes limp isn't enough for you?
That may have been the main or a contributing cause of the guy's death. I'd just prefer to see the medical evidence first. Call me crazy.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 1:20 pm to baybeefeetz
Keep in mind this was all over a supposed counterfeit $20 bill. Turned out it wasn't fake. So why was he even arrested after it was determined the currency he had wasn't counterfeit?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 2:40 pm to rt3
4 officers and 2 squad cars, not 4 officers and 1 SUV.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 4:18 pm to baybeefeetz
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Back to Floyd...
Posted on 6/1/20 at 4:38 pm to TutHillTiger
Yea, i thought that was by far the worst case ever.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 5:12 pm to baybeefeetz
That's what he was mainly resisting (getting in car) and triggered anxiety or delirium episode along with possible drug use where he was already at least mentioning struggling to breath before he was on the ground. I am not sure who called ambulance or if they were going to bring him in using another vehicle, but that does seem to be a missing part of story and the report. I don't know if someone calms down from that kind of episode enough to attempt to put back into car, if they bring in a van (since he stated he had claustrophobia issue), or if another officer called ambulance to check and transport. I did read that in report charging the policeman that another officer had asked if they should change positions to help deal with possible delirium episode, but the knee officer told him something like that is why he was in current position (not knee part but I guess being more in a prone position). The other officer also checked and found his pulse about a minute or so before they said his heart stopped. Supposedly this is from cops' cameras they were wearing.
Some of it seems like the officer more concerned about the people questioning his actions and spending last several minutes showing them he could, but they also really haven't mentioned what their plan was (obviously if he hadn't died) and who called ambulance (at least from what i have read as of yesterday).
Some of it seems like the officer more concerned about the people questioning his actions and spending last several minutes showing them he could, but they also really haven't mentioned what their plan was (obviously if he hadn't died) and who called ambulance (at least from what i have read as of yesterday).
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:11 pm to TheCaterpillar
spades......a card game played in college
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