re: Bachelor Nation: 70% of Men Aged 20-34 Are Not Married

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When a woman starts nitpicking their hubby over shite they KNEW about him BEFORE they got married there's a tendency to say, "what the frick, this isn't news".

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In some cases, that shite doesn't come out until after marriage (granted, I've never been married). Certain things go unnoticed until you live together for example. Suddenly your realize they leave the lid half way off everything in the fridge, and it drives you nuts. Then you make the choice of whether you're okay with it or not. If you say "okay, I can deal" after the discovery, then your point is valid. However, small things can grind away at someone, and they should be able to voice their annoyance without it being a big deal.

i feel like this thread needs some tswizzle quotes

or leaving the gosh darn mother fricking toilet seat up...
my arse falls in, dude!!! and i have really bad night vision.

leaves rooms looking like the sixth sense kitchen all the time...

This issue isn't a debate between 8's and 4's. Obviously, in a "first meeting" type of situation, the 8 will win every time unless she has some incredibly glaring flaw that is noticeable from the word "go", especially if the 8 is actually a choice.

It's about how to make choices between individual 6's and 7's. How does a woman differentiate herself from other women in the same "tier"? Looks matter. They do, especially initially. However, once a guy has sex with a woman, the looks are no longer as important as the personality for maintaining that relationship (assuming the woman doesn't drastically change her looks over a short span). Having lots of domestic skills is one way that a woman can maintain that relationship after the influence of her looks starts to wane. Looks are only THE deciding factor at first. Personality is the determinant of longevity.

Domestic skills are a cheat code like men being able to play the guitar or being filthy rich. Down>Diagonal>towards>A>B>A>B love (gross oversimplification, but you get the idea )

If an average woman is having trouble keeping men at the same rate as her peer group women, then learning some serious domestic skills will give her an ace in the hole. There are many guys out there that were on the fence about a girl they were dating until she cooked the best meal he'd ever had.

Not just 6's and 7's but all women can benefit from such knowledge as it makes life easier and gives women just one more weapon in their arsenal.

I can be honest about this because one of the things that really made my SO stand out from other girls was the fact that she was taught these skills from a young age. She's a wiz in the kitchen, she can make her own clothes (or just about anything else), she's mechanically inclined, gardens, ect. It was a unique quality that helped her to continue to stand out even after that puppy love attraction phase was over.

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In some cases, that shite doesn't come out until after marriage (granted, I've never been married). Certain things go unnoticed until you live together for example. Suddenly your realize they leave the lid half way off everything in the fridge, and it drives you nuts. Then you make the choice of whether you're okay with it or not. If you say "okay, I can deal" after the discovery, then your point is valid. However, small things can grind away at someone, and they should be able to voice their annoyance without it being a big deal.

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This. All this.

Yeah, you date for 2-3 years and maybe you tolerate some things, or don't bring them up because they don't seem like a big deal.

But what about 10 years later? 20? After the stresses of kids, career, etc mount? Maybe those toe nail clippings become a sore spot.

I prefer that my wife tell me what bugs her. Most of the time, it's stuff that costs me little effort to change and makes a huge difference to her (I was a serial half-lid person )

And if it is a big deal, we compromise. People change, preferences change, so should the parameters of the relationship.

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I'm good with how I am

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Seems that way.

Good luck

If there was an 9 and a 6 at the bar, and the 9 sucked as a person, I'll turn right around and talk to the 6 and have a much better time. Wouldn't think twice about it, and probably ignore the better looking chick. Looks matter to me, but not near as much as personality.

If I'm just trying to get with a girl at 4am, I'm going with the 9 every time.

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Two women are standing in a bar together. OT 8 and OT 4. Who are you walking up to and starting a convo with? Let's face it. Looks is the first draw for most people, most of the time.

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You do know that looks have always been one of the biggest evolutionary factors that men look for, right?

Same for women going for protection + providers

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The women get to pick, too.

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not on the OT