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re: Average IQ by state....Another way Mississippi ranks last

Posted on 3/17/21 at 8:49 am to
Posted by goofball
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 8:49 am to
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How much lower would Alabama be without Huntsville?


An normal person who moves from Huntsville to Tuscaloosa would raise the average IQ of both towns slightly.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 8:50 am to
I’ve always said Baton Rouge is Jackson with a major university
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 8:52 am to
Missouri as the only above-average SEC state.

Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77919 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 8:54 am to
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People with higher IQs voted for Biden.
Uhh...
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 8:55 am to


Anyone else bothered by the scale posted on the bottom?
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:01 am to
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Baton Rouge and New Orleans may as well be Cambridge compared to Jackson.

Shreveport is an good comparison though. Montgomery or Beaumont too

Shreveport = Montgomery is a very apt comparison imo

quote:

I’ve always said Baton Rouge is Jackson with a major university

Baton Rouge without LSU would be Shreveport, but with better Cajun food.
This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 9:03 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:02 am to
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IQ is a very silly metric.




What would you suggest?
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
73536 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:08 am to
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Anyone else bothered by the scale posted on the bottom?



only that it has La in the >95 category. That seems rather high. OT rocket magicians must be really helping the avg.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:10 am to
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What would you suggest?



What is the need of having a test in the first place? IQ tests are limited because there isn't a clear, distinct neuroanatomical or neurophysiological basis to separate what IQ supposedly measures, and overall brain function, in which a great deal of integrative function is directed toward fine motor control. Furthermore, the logarithmic basis of IQ scores that a person with a 101 IQ has 1000 times more brain power than a person with a 100 IQ, which absolutely has no anatomical justification, to my knowledge.
This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 9:12 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:13 am to
This is kind of interesting. WaPo ranks states' intelligence by also factoring in SAT and ACT scores and college graduation rate. LINK

What is interesting is that Louisiana kids deviated -8.9 points from the national median on ACT scores and deviated 7.9 on SAT scores form the median.

The discrepancy is obviously the fact that the ACT is mostly mandatory for in state schools and the SAT is used for out of state schools and not needed for most in state schools. As a consequence you have more smart kids taking the SAT.
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:14 am to
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Sad about Mississippi. I think it's secretly one of the best states in the south. Oxford must be bringing the whole place down.


If the entire state were similar to the coast, then it would absolutely be one of the best states in the south. However, the rest of the state is nothing like the coast, and, therefore, it is collectively not one of the best states in the south.
Posted by Cossatotjoe
Member since Oct 2020
938 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:15 am to
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What is the need of having a test in the first place? IQ tests are limited because there isn't a clear, distinct neuroanatomical or neurophysiological basis to separate what IQ supposedly measures, and overall brain function, in which a great deal of integrative function is directed toward fine motor control. Furthermore, the logarithmic basis of IQ scores that a person with a 101 IQ has 1000 times more brain power than a person with a 100 IQ, which absolutely has no anatomical justification, to my knowledge.


You sound like a guy who tested out at 110 but thinks he should have been at 140.
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
33281 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:16 am to
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People with higher IQs voted for Biden.


I didn't realize IQs still registered on dead people, amirite? :rimshot2:
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:17 am to
I have enough life experience that I didn’t need a study to already know these findings
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:19 am to
One day at work I had a guy ask me what the lubricated in lubricated condoms meant....

I guess I’m happy he was at least thinking about using protection
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21775 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:20 am to
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Jackson is awful, but let's not act like Nola, Baton Rouge, or Shreveport are any better.


At least we don't consider sitting on a tailgate drinking to be a hallmark of our culture.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
73536 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:21 am to
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sitting on a tailgate drinking to be a hallmark of our culture.



you say that like it's a bad thing
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17333 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:23 am to
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If the entire state were similar to the coast, then it would absolutely be one of the best states in the south. However, the rest of the state is nothing like the coast, and, therefore, it is collectively not one of the best states in the south.



You are right. But I do think it's doing a better job than most at attracting the type of labor-intensive manufacturing that doesn't produce heavy air pollution to the state. Mazda, Toyota, Nissan, Viking Ranges, Rolls Royce, Safran, Lentz, etc. Those are not all in the coastal areas either.

The Memphis suburbs are also pretty nice for the most part. Southaven is kind of sketchy, but Olive Branch has turned out very nice. The area east of Olive Branch is drawing a lot of distribution jobs with FedEx Ground, Amazon, etc. They have some new highways put in that makes it ideal for intermodal distribution hubs.

I also think there's a lot of potential to attract retirees to an even greater degree to the coastal areas, Hattiesburg, McComb, and other parts of the state near Memphis. The weather is reasonable and the state doesn't tax retirement income. Property taxes are very low. And retired people don't usually care about school districts or a robust white collar job market.

The formal delta region is very rough though (one of the worst in the country), and that's why the state likely ranks so far behind in education. It's a similar problem that much of Louisiana has, and there's no clear way to remedy it in Mississippi that doesn't involve attracting heavy manufacturing to the area.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21775 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:25 am to
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you say that like it's a bad thing


It is not, but that's the extent of Mississippi culture. Even the Blues left that state for Memphis and Nola decades ago. The bands they produce leave so they can actually make a living.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:28 am to
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You sound like a guy who tested out at 110 but thinks he should have been at 140.



With respect to neuroanatomy and neurophysiology, I just don't see the basis for privileging certain things as indicative of brain power, while excluding things like fine motor control. The brain isn't like a computer, nor is it simply an "intelligence" machine. It is integrative, and deficiencies of the implied scale should have other clinical correlates, which I do not see the evidence for; in other words, I'm not suggesting that there isn't a difference in intelligence between two people, but rather there isn't a justification for the implications of logarithmic scoring.
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