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re: Autism/Downs kids with IEPs/school

Posted on 8/13/20 at 8:19 pm to
Posted by NE4501
Member since Apr 2020
36 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 8:19 pm to
They are available and that can help, but most staff members are opting for medical grade masks. Our students are not wearing them, so social interactions will be difficult. I want all students to return to school and am hoping we can do away with all of the new rules and procedures sooner than later.
Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
16857 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 8:20 pm to
The catholic schools are in person. Is the REACH program offering in person classes?
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13868 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 8:26 pm to
Not sure what REACH is. Kid is in public schools with usually a great program for autism. Currently looking to add more ABA hours if school does not open.
This post was edited on 8/13/20 at 8:37 pm
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31271 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 8:35 pm to
I can’t imagine how that would work at all and sound ps like it would be torture on the kid and the parents. I’d seriously consider holding them back a year and maybe do something else with them this year (let them take up a hoppy and go absolutely nuts with it perhaps)..
Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
16857 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 8:36 pm to
The REACH program is the catholic schools special/differential Ed program.

I would think that if catholic schools are in session/person, that the REACH program is the same.

I have no idea how the pubic/private programs match up, but I know that in person learning for all children is very important.
Posted by Mantard
A Better Place
Member since Nov 2011
122 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 10:49 pm to
This situation I think would be quite different for parents of kids on different functioning levels. You should do what you feel is best for your child and advocate for him/her. I would recommend looking into local agencies that offer some representation and advocacy for students with disabilities. Be an active part of the IEP team and let your concerns be known any concerns you have should be documented on the IEP. You can request to reconvene at anytime based on your previous concerns not being addressed. The services and minutes of services provided should be based on needs and shouldn’t differ much from the previous year without significant progress. You should be sure to attend any meetings, especially since the team will likely try to reconvene early to make concessions on things they deem impossible to sustain virtually. Don’t sign at the end of meeting if you disagree and don’t be afraid to submit an appeal or threaten legal action for anything you deem unacceptable or that deviates too far from the previous agreed upon IEP.
Posted by Mantard
A Better Place
Member since Nov 2011
122 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 10:58 pm to
Also if your child is on the autism spectrum, this would be a pretty good year to make sure the IEP has a social goal and forces the school to to ensure the student interacts with others socially. Could be done and monitored online but give you more ground to stand on if you feel the school isn’t doing it’s due diligence to create social interactions.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12273 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 4:33 am to
They expect my non verbal, autistic son who is 5 to be on a computer from 8:30 to 2:45. Look, he can't talk. He can't operate a computer. He can't communicate in any way over the computer. He needs to be in a classroom, all of his communication is non verbal. He is scheduled to be in a inclusion class this semester (some autistic kids, some non autistic kids) and he needs to be in that environment. We were going to send him to emerge this year but after orientation we came to the realization we just could not make it work. Traffic is a nightmare across town, they do not offer transportation, they do not offer before or after care and no daycare will take our son, even if they would they wouldn't pick him up from emerge. We have complained to the school and Special Education director so far, next steps are school board and official complaints to try to get fed funding pulled to hopefully see some action and improvement. Right now they just don't give a frick.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6958 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 6:04 am to
quote:

Our school is opening, but I think that many kids with ASD and other disorders will find it hard to cope with the safety procedures put in place. All students and teachers will be required to wear masks. It will be extremely hard for students to hear and read facial expressions. Familiar routines will be turned upside down and I fear that many students who thrived pre-covid will regress or develop new behaviors as a result.





I agree with this completely. frick this virus. My son is scared to death about it and he hates the masks. Then our governor comes out and says the face shields will be disallowed at schools. Gonna try to get an exemption for him to wear the shield.

I’m seeing regression from not just him but my 6 year old daughter as well. But autistic kids are really prone to regress back to child like tendencies and I have seen that since the start of the pandemic. The fear and lack of structure affects everyone but especially our spectrum kids.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 6:09 am to
A panel of teachers were at the White House yesterday talking about this specifically for special needs kids. They all said it's literally virtually impossible for special needs kids to get the same level of development but also the care afforded at those schools by removing them from in person learning.
This post was edited on 8/14/20 at 6:10 am
Posted by Buck Magnum
Springdale
Member since Dec 2003
11839 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 6:16 am to
I would base it on the severity of the disability. I worked with a non verbal autistic high schooler with a spitting problem. No way in hell he would keep a mask on.
Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2939 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 6:34 am to
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Then our governor comes out and says the face shields will be disallowed at schools.


I don't understand how this works when working with speech. My son requires speech therapy due to being deaf. I know the mandate states no mask required for interacting with hearing impaired persons (I don't know if the schools are allowing teachers to remove masks in these situations), but not everyone requiring speech therapy is hearing impaired. A mask on either the therapist or the student hinders and/or makes the lessons counterproductive due to the muffling of sound and not being able to see lip and tongue movement.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34082 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 6:45 am to
If any students are being allowed on campus, legally, the school must allow SPED students on campus due to FAPE.

Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33243 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 6:51 am to
Yep.....I sit at the dining table and teach him.

Thing is, I know his tricks
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33243 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 6:53 am to
Yeah public schools are actually far better equipped (and willing) to teach special ed kiddos.

The autistic based schools in Houston are few as well, full up, and super expensive.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33243 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 6:56 am to
Sorry brother:(

Reading yours makes me realize how lucky we are that ours is high functioning.

That said, where are you? In TX, the kids have hardcore rights......can you reach out to an advocate?
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
10489 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 7:46 am to
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Anyone with special needs kids being asked to do virtual learning this year? Not sure how this would be possible. Any recourse?


Doesn't rwally matter... they're fricked even if they attend.

My girls 10 year old has only the slightest bit of autism and only takes adhd meds.

He's going into the 5th grade and can barely do addition and subtraction. Next to nothing reading comprehension.

IEP are worthless. Does nothing but condition kids that it doesnt matter how bad they do... it's okay because they're special.

She fought for 3 years to have him held back because he always fails his grades but they pass him on anyway and say they arent allowed to hold him back.

He doesn't care and thinks its a joke. No amount of arse beatings will change him. He's over the pain in 5 min and right back to fricking off.

Last school years distance learning we would make him sit at the table until his packet was done. He'd either scribble bullshite wrong answers, sit there and do nothing, claim he's done while leaving multiple pages empty or a combo.

Either cant do it or doesn't want to. The only way his work will get done is if someone does it for him. Same as if he was in school.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 7:49 am to
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IEP are worthless


I disagree. But I'm sorry your personal situation has been disappointing.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33243 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 9:42 am to
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No amount of arse beatings will change him. He's over the pain in 5 min and right back to fricking off.



Dafuq?!


Want to know how I know WHY you are failing?


I am frickING blown away by this......
This post was edited on 8/14/20 at 9:43 am
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
10489 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:00 am to
Please enlighten me. I can assure you every method of punishment, positive reinforcement, ultimatum, real world talk, warnings about being unsuccessful and a bum. Pleading, talking normal and asking why only to hear " i dont know."

His problem is he's been raised as a spoikled titty baby and I only came into his life 11 months ago. He's disrespectful, lies,manipulates and tries to turn people against each other.

He will either learn to listen and have a enlightening breakthrough or wind up being a career fry dropper. Period.
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