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re: Aussie woman calls cops after hearing noise, Minn. police kill her Update:officer named
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:06 am to boogedy
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:06 am to boogedy
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Seriously dude stop and think. If the dashcam was on where would it be pointed? Where, in relation to the officers' vehicle, was the woman shot? These are questions you should ask yourself.
So now youre saying there is video, but its only useful because of the audio?
Did you miss the part where the article said there was no video?
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I guess common sense is not something everyone beholds.
Its becoming clearer in every word you type.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:08 am to Clyde Tipton
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It kind of sounds like a mis fire. Maybe she was talking to the driver cop relaying information and the passenger cop was checking his weapon getting ready to exit the vehicle and start investigating when the pistol went off.
Not sure why this comment was met with such scorn. Why would the officer in the passenger's seat intentionally shoot across his partner through the door if she was standing at an open window? Has it been reported where she was hit? That's not meant to excuse the officer's actions.
And, I wouldn't expect body cameras the be active inside the vehicle. They would mostly just record the dash board and there are already recording devices attached to the vehicle.
Maybe it takes an international incident to get some police tactic reform and stop the 'shoot first' mentality that has seemingly become SOP.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:08 am to Scruffy
How do you know there is not? Because a newspaper said there is no video. You are assuming that they mean any video (time stamped audio), I assume they mean video of the actual altercation where it shows the woman getting shot. Do You see my point.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:13 am to shel311
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You do realize, the default is for them to be off, and the officer has to manually turn it on, right?
Yes. I believe that is also the same for his car, flashlight, and taser. He cannot use any of them if he does not turn them on.
My truck works the same way but it is not military grade.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:18 am to Breesus
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What the frick? There has to be more to that story.
How many direct interactions with citizens do police around the country have each day? Maybe hundreds of thousands? There will be mistakes made in that many interactions and some of those mistakes will be the result of an officer doing something stupid or careless. It's Math + Human Nature.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:18 am to shel311
quote:He should have turned it on.
the officer has to manually turn it on, right?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:19 am to Hangit
quote:You insinuated that he "turned it off and shot a lady" but I just don't think you realized it was never on to begin with.
Yes. I believe that is also the same for his car, flashlight, and taser. He cannot use any of them if he does not turn them on.
My truck works the same way but it is not military grade.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:19 am to shel311
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Do you think that cops should 100% of the time be able to know and anticipate when an issue is going to arise?
I feel like they should turn the cameras on immediately upon responding to a call.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:20 am to shel311
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You do realize, the default is for them to be off, and the officer has to manually turn it on, right?
Why not turn it on at the beginning of every interaction with people before they ever get out the car
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:20 am to Scruffy
quote:You can't say that based on what we know right now, or what we don't know to be more to the point.
He should have turned it on.
Especially if what that one poster quoted as per Minnesota law/policy that states when they should turn them on.
It's easy to play Monday morning quarterback, but there aren't enough facts for us to make that determination with 100% accuracy.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 11:21 am
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:21 am to Epic Cajun
quote:100% agree, but that doesn't seem to be the policy.
I feel like they should turn the cameras on immediately upon responding to a call.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:23 am to Breesus
quote:Same as above, I agree, but that's not policy.
Why not turn it on at the beginning of every interaction with people before they ever get out the car
Seems like a few are arguing on what they think should happened but they're extrapolating what they think and magically making that the actual policy, which it isn't.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:24 am to NYNolaguy1
I read on one news outlet that she investigated a disturbance in an alley. When doing so she brought a knife with her. She called the police and when they showed up she approached the car with the knife in her hand and the officer shot her...who know though...
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:24 am to NYNolaguy1
Sounds awful, but I'm having a hard time understanding a scenario where a police officer just shoots a person who called them for help because they were standing by their door. Especially when the other officer is between the person and the gun.
Not saying it was justified but the way the story's been presented, she just walked up to talk and the officer murdered her in cold blood.
Unless the officer was mentally ill or intoxicated.
Not saying it was justified but the way the story's been presented, she just walked up to talk and the officer murdered her in cold blood.
Unless the officer was mentally ill or intoxicated.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:25 am to FLAK88
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When doing so she brought a knife with her. She called the police and when they showed up she approached the car with the knife in her hand
i heard it was a chainsaw.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:25 am to shel311
quote:Actually, Scruffy can.
You can't say that based on what we know right now, or what we don't know to be more to the point.
His camera was off. They arrive on scene. He should have turned it on just prior to arrival. That should be protocol. The fact that he did not should be a fireable offense.
I realize the concept of "should" applies here.
We need SEVERE changes to police tactics and protocols in regards to body cameras.
For God's sake man. Hold the police to at least some standard.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 11:28 am
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:27 am to Breesus
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the officer in the passenger seat pulled his gun and shot Damond through the driver’s side door, sources said.
At the very least his partner should whip his azz for ringing his ears.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:27 am to shawnlsu
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I'm sure Gravy will be along any minute to denounce this heinous act
Doesn't pass his color test.

Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:27 am to Scruffy
quote:Right, you can make all the assumptions you want. It just doesn't make it so, it just makes it an assumption on your part.
Actually, Scruffy can.
quote:But it's not protocol. See my previous post about taking what you think should happen and making that the actual standard....but it's not.
His camera was off. They arise on scene. He should have turned it on just prior to arrival. That should be protocol. The fact that he did not should be a fireable offense.
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