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re: Aussie woman calls cops after hearing noise, Minn. police kill her Update:officer named
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:22 am to SoFla Tideroller
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:22 am to SoFla Tideroller
quote:That's what I was trying to get at, when do they normally activate them?
Body cameras aren't normally on while officers are in the car.
I feel like I need to put the disclaimer every time so i'll keep saying it, not saying the shooting itself was justified but she could have rushed up to the car and immediately created some sort of altercation that they simply did not expect at that moment.
Just trying to play out all possible scenarios.
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:23 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Do you think that cops should 100% of the time be able to know and anticipate when an issue is going to arise?
Not having a body cam on should be a fireable offense.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:26 am to shel311
I bet there's a dash cam vid from another responding officer's car that will show the victim getting struck. Would be pure dumb luck if any bodycam or dashcam caught something giving insight into what happened within the vehicle where the gun was fired.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:27 am to shel311
The problem of cost for departments isn't the hardware, it's the storage of data. That's why most departments have a policy of activating them only when on calls or certain types of calls.
It's the data storage costs that has kept my agency from getting cameras.
It's the data storage costs that has kept my agency from getting cameras.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:27 am to LSUTANGERINE
If it were a black person that was shot everyone here would be saying "There must be more to the story"
But she was white so they're ready to convict the cop without any more details
But she was white so they're ready to convict the cop without any more details
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:28 am to Grim
several people have said there must be more to the story.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:29 am to shel311
quote:
Do you think that cops should 100% of the time be able to know and anticipate when an issue is going to arise?
They should be required to have it on every call when dealing with the public.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:31 am to NYNolaguy1
This board is so fricking stupid. You can't continuously have body cameras on at all times. The amount of data and servers it would take/cost is not reasonable. Also I'm sure the dash camera was on so we will know what occurred verbally which is probably all we would have known if their body cameras were on. Do you think the officers in the car actually turned their bodies to the side of the driver door when the woman was there or do you think they just had their head/necks turned. Meaning, all you would have seen with a body camera is the dashboard. People, stop acting like all the idiots from these other shooting and wait for more evidence to come out before you start drawing conclusions on what happened. Yes, the officer may need to be arrested but damn let the process work. Is it just because the woman was white and in a better part of town that you assume she wasn't doing anything reckless?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:32 am to boogedy
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Is it just because the woman was white and in a better part of town that you assume she wasn't doing anything reckless?
Pure stupidity.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:32 am to boogedy
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Is it just because the woman was white and in a better part of town that you assume she wasn't doing anything reckless?
who is assuming this?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:33 am to chinhoyang
If you were a cop today I'm sure you would be quick to draw your gun too.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:33 am to shel311
quote:
Do you think that cops should 100% of the time be able to know and anticipate when an issue is going to arise?
Do citizens who purposely call for police assistance always anticipate when an issue is going to arise, for example, a low IQ cop responding to shoot them without cause?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:34 am to shel311
Even if the body camera was on, I doubt it would have captured anything on video. It's field of view is straight ahead from the torso of the officer, not directly to the right or left of the officer. So unless the officer had turned his body to the left, it probably wouldn't have been caught on video. Especially the body camera of the officer who shot from the passenger seat
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 10:36 am
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:36 am to Sao
Did you land on your Jump to Conclusions mat? How do you know it's without cause?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:37 am to Grim
quote:
If it were a black person that was shot everyone here would be saying "There must be more to the story"
Plenty of posts have said that. GTFO
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:40 am to Sao
quote:Irrelevant to my point, but thanks for sharing!
Do citizens who purposely call for police assistance always anticipate when an issue is going to arise, for example, a low IQ cop responding to shoot them without cause?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:40 am to boogedy
quote:
Also I'm sure the dash camera was on
Actually it wasnt...
quote:
Meaning, all you would have seen with a body camera is the dashboard.
And audio, and a timestamp as to when exactly the shot was fired, not to mention what happened before and after the shooting...
quote:
Is it just because the woman was white and in a better part of town that you assume she wasn't doing anything reckless?
Generally speaking yes. The fact she was Australian and most likely didnt like guns plays to the fact she most likely posed no threat to the officers. That narrows down why this happened.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:42 am to SoFla Tideroller
quote:
he problem of cost for departments isn't the hardware, it's the storage of data. That's why most departments have a policy of activating them only when on calls or certain types of calls.
It's the data storage costs that has kept my agency from getting cameras.
That's a terrible excuse considering the municipal will wind up paying millions for wrongful death if indeed this is.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:42 am to SoFla Tideroller
quote:I'm certainly no expert on that front, but it just seems like there should be a fairly easy work around. Then again, I also think we should have phones with batteries that last much longer than a day, and that shouldn't be that hard by now either, so what do I know.
The problem of cost for departments isn't the hardware, it's the storage of data. That's why most departments have a policy of activating them only when on calls or certain types of calls.
It's the data storage costs that has kept my agency from getting cameras.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:44 am to shel311
quote:
I'm certainly no expert on that front, but it just seems like there should be a fairly easy work around. Then again, I also think we should have phones with batteries that last much longer than a day, and that shouldn't be that hard by now either, so what do I know.
Actually putting some thought into this.
Most officers travel with laptops.
You can literally create an SDM Silo and have officers upload their camera data into their Subscriber profile to be housed.
One fricking HP rack can manage this.
In fact now that I think about it, DATA management is really fricking POOR excuse.
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