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Audio reveals pilots angrily confronting Boeing about 737 Max feature before second crash
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:41 pm
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(CNN) Just months before a second deadly crash of a Boeing 737 Max airplane, American Airlines pilots angrily confronted a Boeing official about a computerized anti-stall system that preliminary reports have now implicated in both deadly wrecks, audio obtained by CBS News reveals.
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The meeting between the pilots and Boeing happened in November -- just weeks after an October crash of a Lion Air 737 Max into the Java Sea, and four months before a 737 Max operated by Ethiopian Air crashed in Ethiopia. On the audio, a Boeing official is heard telling pilots that software changes were coming, perhaps in as little as six weeks, but that the company didn't want to hurry the process.
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The pilots indicated they weren't aware of the 737 Max's computerized stability program -- the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System, or MCAS. "We flat out deserve to know what is on our airplanes," a pilot is heard saying. "I don't disagree," the unidentified Boeing official answers. "These guys didn't even know the damn system was on the airplane," a pilot says, seemingly referring to the Lion Air pilots. "Nor did anybody else." "I don't know that understanding this system would have changed the outcome of this," the Boeing official says. "In a million miles you're going to maybe fly this airplane, and maybe once you're going to see this ever."
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:44 pm to RedRifle
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"In a million miles you're going to maybe fly this airplane, and maybe once you're going to see this ever."
there's some things you just never say 
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:47 pm to RedRifle
quote:Yeah, but that one time is a bitch.
"In a million miles you're going to maybe fly this airplane, and maybe once you're going to see this ever.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:48 pm to RedRifle
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In a million miles you're going to maybe fly this airplane, and maybe once you're going to see this ever."
But.....it’s already happened twice
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:49 pm to RedRifle
The really scary part is none of this is hurting their stock price. Wall Street straight up doesn’t care and they will shove this down the public’s throat bc it makes them a few extra bucks & as we learned in tWSJ the FAA is compromised.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:51 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The really scary part is none of this is hurting their stock price. Wall Street straight up doesn’t care and they will shove this down the public’s throat bc it makes them a few extra bucks & as we learned in tWSJ the FAA is compromised.
Or they simply believe Boeing will resolve the issue and things will be okay going forward.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:54 pm to RedRifle
Dierks Bentley got drunk on a 737 and had no issues.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:02 pm to jamboybarry
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But.....it’s already happened twice
It’s probably been 2 million miles.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:28 pm to RedRifle
I can't find it (might've been taken down) of a simulation of one of the crashes. Crazy stuff and it would be easy to see how the flight crew were confused.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:28 am to OysterPoBoy
quote:2 million happen fast if you are adding all international miles 24/7 - 365
It’s probably been 2 million miles.
"There are old pilots and bold pilots - but no old, bold pilots."
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 2:31 am
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:44 am to northshorebamaman
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but that one time is a bitch.
And leads to hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars in losses with delayed deliveries, cancellations and customers looking even harder at Airbus.
Boeing fricked up royally not going the extra mile for safety. Would've been far cheaper than what they're dealing with right now.
Charging airlines extra for a safety feature? Get the frick out of here.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:48 am to OysterPoBoy
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It’s probably been 2 million miles.
I would imagine the 737 Max probably flies 50+ million miles a year, maybe closer to 80.
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