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re: Auburn ranks DEAD LAST in this list of best colleges for...
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:13 am to StringedInstruments
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:13 am to StringedInstruments
Yet there’s a lot of culture at Auburn. But it seems mostly to be from non-students sticking their nose under the college social tent.
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Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:19 am to StringedInstruments
I was a Pell Grant kid but that was back in the 90's.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:28 am to StringedInstruments
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Auburn ranks DEAD LAST in this list of best colleges for...
...Pell Grant recipients.
Probably because of all the Georgia kids who went to Barn because they couldn't get into UGA.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:36 am to Rex Feral
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Probably because of all the Georgia kids who went to Barn because they couldn't get into UGA.
UGA's selection process is kind of hard to decipher. We've known kids who checked all the boxes and were legacies, but get turned away, while non-legacy kids with very similar qualifications are actively recruited in.
And, the back door is often used, meaning that if you don't get in at first, go to a local college and transfer in after a year. There is a fair amount of turnover as freshmen sometimes find the downtown bars more interesting than class and losing the HOPE gets them yanked home.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:39 am to tide06
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I would send a child there and given where I went for undergrad that's saying something...
A lot of my family went to A&M and they always spoke highly of Auburn. Said it was an A&M type school with a very dedicated alumni. U of Alabama was like Texas which was called a "walmart school" because most of the people walking around with Texas gear just bought it at Walmart. This was before A&M started improving and now has become a Walmart school to some degree too haha.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:40 am to SpotCheckBilly
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And, the back door is often used, meaning that if you don't get in at first, go to a local college and transfer in after a year. .
I, strangely, have a ton of UGA grad friends. Really close to 8 or 9 of them. At least 3 did this
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 10:41 am
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:41 am to Aubie Spr96
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I was a Pell Grant kid
Like a small step up from a Jerry's kid.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:45 am to StringedInstruments
Pell Grants are gross
Real Baws would rather pass on a handout and toss that on the loan tab for after they done at the school house
Real Baws would rather pass on a handout and toss that on the loan tab for after they done at the school house
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:46 am to SpotCheckBilly
quote:she post here
And, the back door is often used,
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:46 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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What strikes me is in a state that has a relatively high poverty rate (bottom 10) the school system is failing the poor. You'd expect a state with more poverty to have more Pell grant students. Im all for providing more opportunity for the economically disadvantaged to incentivize and encourage escaping the poverty culture.
Pell Grants in theory are great for the intent that you outlined above: to elevate poor students through education.
They helped me get through school.
However in upside down 2023 Pell Grants are being abused wholesale by unqualified students with no intention of completing a degree who enroll in school, cash/spend their Pell grants then withdraw from classes.
Pretending there is some “positive” correlation between the quality of the education being provided at a school because there are more pell grant recipients is pure madness and is only being done to ensure DEI initiatives are incorporated into candidate acceptance policies.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:51 am to Areddishfish
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U of Alabama was like Texas which was called a "walmart school" because most of the people walking around with Texas gear just bought it at Walmart.
Unfortunately Bama has doubled enrollment and most of the people they’ve brought in are second tier students from places like IL, CA, MD etc which has changed the culture significantly in the last 15 years or so.
It’s a better school than the rankings indicate and still a great place to send a child, but doubling the enrollment was a naked money grab by the administrators and hasn’t benefited instate students much if at all.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:53 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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I see why some are viewing this as a positive (school attended by fewer poors which might be a negative/trashy influence on your kids.)
What strikes me is in a state that has a relatively high poverty rate (bottom 10) the school system is failing the poor. You'd expect a state with more poverty to have more Pell grant students.
Im all for providing more opportunity for the economically disadvantaged to incentivize and encourage escaping the poverty culture.
AU has a far higher percent of in-state students than Alabama does (AL is at ~65% OUT of state, AU is about the reverse). I had a Pell Grant when I attended, but they used to be not that much money, to the point of not being worth applying for.
The thing is, AU is a STEM-heavy institution, combine that with the ag and vet med side, and not that many poors are looking to go into those majors.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:55 am to StringedInstruments
Keeping the poor trash out is a selling point for the school.
Do you like shopping at stores that accept food stamps? Or would you like shopping at stores that don’t?
Good job Auburn
Do you like shopping at stores that accept food stamps? Or would you like shopping at stores that don’t?
Good job Auburn
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:06 am to StringedInstruments
Tulane got destroyed in rankings by US News for not graduating enough lower income students - interestingly, the methodology decided to toss out less important criteria such as Faculty with Advanced Degrees and number of Top 10% of highschool class student matriculation.
They must think the Phili riots demonstrate the right learning environment
They must think the Phili riots demonstrate the right learning environment
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:13 am to StringedInstruments
I am curious about the correlation between pell grant recipients and also being named #1 in availability of free speech on campus.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:16 am to SpotCheckBilly
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UGA's selection process is kind of hard to decipher.
I have friends whose children had 1400 SATs and 4.2 GPA but couldn't get in this year. It's a different crowd these days than it was in 1995.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:18 am to StringedInstruments
Not surprised.
It'd be interesting to compare the Alabama parents' economic situations for those that send their kids to Auburn vs Alabama.
The financial well to do in the B'ham seem to almost universally send their folks to Auburn. I imagine for demographic reasons.
I'm not counting the well off parents from Texas or wherever who send their kids out of state to Alabama.
It'd be interesting to compare the Alabama parents' economic situations for those that send their kids to Auburn vs Alabama.
The financial well to do in the B'ham seem to almost universally send their folks to Auburn. I imagine for demographic reasons.
I'm not counting the well off parents from Texas or wherever who send their kids out of state to Alabama.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:21 am to tide06
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Unfortunately Bama has doubled enrollment and most of the people they’ve brought in are second tier students from places like IL, CA, MD etc which has changed the culture significantly in the last 15 years or so.
Oh goody. I wonder how much of that is financed by student loans and facilitated by taking worthless majors.
Not picking solely at Bama; this seems to be the common approach and at the core of the student debt crisis.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:22 am to Rex Feral
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I have friends whose children had 1400 SATs and 4.2 GPA but couldn't get in this year. It's a different crowd these days than it was in 1995.
It's crazy how they decide who gets in and who doesn't. Grades, extra-curricula activities, and other factors can be identical, but one gets in and one doesn't. Sometimes the kid who look superior on paper, doesn't get an invite, while they actively pursue a kid with slightly lessor qualifications.
A friend of mine who taught at Auburn thought it was great that AU was getting all these really sharp kids from the northern Atlanta suburbs.
Of course, there is a measure of grade inflation going on.
And yeah, UGA used to be easy to get into -- I even got in, but chose to go back to AU to finish.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:23 am to StringedInstruments
Is that an Auburn press release?
Because it should be.
Because it should be.
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