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re: ATL - Toddler Left in Car

Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:47 am to
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:47 am to
These stories are awful. Thankfully I park in a parking deck and drive a Jeep so it isn't getting to extreme temps but any time a normal car is left in the sun it is way too hot for adults much less kids and infants.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:47 am to
This is just the worst. Honestly, I cannot imagine.

I'd rather die than have this happen to me.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83525 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:47 am to
quote:

I guess it's easier for me because we have a base for the car seat to snap in to, and we put him in the middle, not on the sides, of the back seat. So if there's no car seat, obviously no baby.


and when the baby grows out of that one?

and this scares me to death...I can't imagine
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 9:48 am
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9784 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:48 am to
I agree with you that it should be a case by case basis.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79120 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:49 am to
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Are you a parent?



Valid question for those who say they would never do this, etc.

But I don't think it matters to society at large, nor should it.
Posted by CurDog
Member since Jan 2007
28082 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:49 am to
quote:

Yeah, I'm grateful that I'm anxious wreck when it comes to my kids. I always check the backseat.


just wait until you are on vacation, stop for gas and leave one of them at a gas station. you haven't lived until this has happened
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9784 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:49 am to
quote:

This is just the worst. Honestly, I cannot imagine. I'd rather die than have this happen to me.


I agree
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10037 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:49 am to
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Are you a parent?

Irrelevant, but no, I am not.

I can understand lapsing on the drop off, even going into work, but to go the entire day without the Ah-Ha moment is highly unlikely.

There are three hundred million people in America, find me ten other stories like this where a fricking baby was left in a car erroneously for eight hours.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62855 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:50 am to
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Ways to Help Prevent a Tragedy

Several products are available to remind a parent if a child remains in a car seat after the car is turned off. One of the more popular is Cars-N-Kids Car Seat Monitor, which turns on upon sensing a child's weight and sounds a lullaby when the car has stopped; it retails for about $40 and is available online.

KidsAndCars.org, an advocacy group for child vehicle safety, urges some basic measures to prevent the tragedy of children being inadvertently left in vehicles:

Always put something you'll need for work -- cellphone, handbag, employee badge, etc. -- on the floor of the back seat, near the child.

Keep a large teddy bear in the child's car seat when it's not occupied. When the child is placed in the seat, put the teddy bear up front in the passenger seat. It's a visual reminder that anytime the teddy bear is in the passenger seat, the child is in the back.

Make arrangements with your child's day-care provider or babysitter that you will always call them if your child will not be there on a particular day as scheduled. Ask them to always phone you if your child does not show up when expected.


Upvote good post.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:50 am to
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Maybe jail time isn't necessary, I think there should be wide discretion. But this is the epitome of criminal negligence.


What is jail time? It's essentially an incentive to not commit crimes. Don't commit a crime, and you won't go to jail.

In cases like these, I think we can all agree that the incentive of keeping your child alive far outweighs the incentive of not going to jail.

Parents (most of them anyway) care for their child because they love them. Not because they will go to jail if they don't.
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9784 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:51 am to
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Irrelevant, but no, I am not.


Actually it's very relevant. Passing judgement on parents when you're not one yourself makes a big difference.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:51 am to
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As a fairly new parent this is probably my biggest fear.


It shouldn't be. Assuming you don't have your head up you arse, there is no possible way any reasonable person can do this. I'm astounded by how many people seem to think this is a potential accident waiting to happen...as if it's the luck of the draw to forget you have your child with you.

It isn't...really.

My biggest fear while being in the car with my kids is having some asshat slam into us while they text or check fricking Facebook. I can prevent leaving my kids in the car by simply remembering...my kids are in the car. I can totally and completely prevent that from happening, so it's just not a worry I have. I leave those for things that are out of my hands.

Honestly...if I was some parent looking to murder my kids, there is no way I'd consider anything OTHER than leaving them in the car. We've now got a sizable portion of the public that, due to their own lack of paying attention, will give you a pass.

Downvoting this reasonable position takes place over there>>>>>>>>>>>

Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77567 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:52 am to
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and when the baby grows out of that one?


Why I said it was easy. Like I said, I don't want to judge anyone on this, but we check on him all the time, and we usually have our 7 year old back there with him so it's hard for me to imagine forgetting he's back there.


I wouldn't be able to live with myself if this ever did happen. Looking at a picture of him right now, and that thought makes me want to puke.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79120 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:52 am to
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In cases like these, I think we can all agree that the incentive of keeping your child alive far outweighs the incentive of not going to jail.



Yes, for us. Unfortunately, a lot of people who let their kids drown in swimming pools or die in cars or whatever aren't people like us. They're shitty parents without whatever it is that we have that would make us prefer death to dealing with this tragedy.

Laws are in place for people like that.
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
75242 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:52 am to
These stories always put me in the parents' shoes with my son being the kid. I don't really make it through the story at that point. I'd probably kill myself if I ever left my son to die like that.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10037 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:53 am to
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Actually it's very relevant. Passing judgement on parents when you're not one yourself makes a big difference.

People pass judgement on things all of the time without having walked in the same shoes.

Where does this notion that only a parent can criticize a parent come from?
Posted by joeytiger
Muh Mom's House
Member since Jul 2012
6037 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:53 am to
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I just don't see how this is possible


How do you just "forget" that your child is in the car? Inexcusable.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 9:54 am
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:54 am to
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It shouldn't be. Assuming you don't have your head up you arse, there is no possible way any reasonable person can do this. I'm astounded by how many people seem to think this is a potential accident waiting to happen...as if it's the luck of the draw to forget you have your child with you.


Have you ever left the house and 2 hours later wondered...did I turn the alarm on?
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9784 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:55 am to
Exactly. Ignorant people pass judgement on things they know nothing about. You don't know what it's like to be a parent. Period.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79120 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Where does this notion that only a parent can criticize a parent come from?



It's pretty common, usually from bad parents (no offense to whoever made the comment to you).

Obviously parents know more about what it is like to parent than non-parents. But from a legal and social perspective, we should judge people who leave kids in the car. Perhaps sympathy is in order in a case like this, perhaps not, but like any other homicide that is 100% avoidable, we need a society that says this shite is entirely unacceptable.
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