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re: At what point do we (myself included) say enough of this and get the hell out this state?
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:10 am to Gulf Coast Tiger
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:10 am to Gulf Coast Tiger
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The only place in Mississippi I will live is the coast
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Gulf Coast Tiger
Name checks out.
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:12 am to latxwoman
Houston says hold my beer on flooding And the cost of living is rising. Insane property taxes, etc... every place has an issue. It’s all relative to what you choose to endure.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:13 am to jclem11
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A giant block of homes where you must have a car and drive 10 or 15 minutes to get places is inefficient and shitty city planning.
only if you don't have space, like Europe
also, you're forcing people to live in extremely small housing at a higher cost to achieve this. that is a much higher inefficiency
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you can start on a city level by making individual cities more mixed zoning and more walkable and bikeable.
We have cities without single-use family zoning. Houston has no zoning. It's not what I would call walkable or bikeable and has millions living in suburbs outside of the city. It even has plenty of mixed-used areas in the developmental style you desire.
I'm all for eliminating single-family zoning within major urban areas to allow more development (and to frick NIMBYs who have used their political power to thwart more reasonable, incremental development). But it makes no sense outside of those urban areas.
And yeah, I've already seen those videos. Why I knew you were promoting European planning based on European needs.
Not everyone wants to live in an urban area (or, in your design, an area outside of an urban area that has all the bad living aspects of urbanity). Not everyone wants to live in a smaller space that costs more. I prefer to give people the choice, rather than believe that government is capable of planning out the needs for millions of people (especially when your argument centers around the failures of government as why this perceived problem exists).
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:15 am to back9Tiger
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Houston says hold my beer on flooding And the cost of living is rising.
True but depends on where you live in the city.
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Insane property taxes
Sure but I paid less in property taxes than my brother in law and sister did in income + property taxes (I have almost the same income as the two of them in LA) in Lousiana last year. So it is all relative.
Salaries and incomes are much, much higher here than Louisiana. You come out ahead in Texas.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:18 am to EA6B
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Drought, water rationing, and power brownouts.
Forgot Monsoon Season / severe flash flooding / raining mud events / haboobs
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:23 am to back9Tiger
If I were to leave South LA it definitely wouldn't be for S and SE Texas.
Hot, Humid, Storms, Flooding, Traffic
Nah
Hot, Humid, Storms, Flooding, Traffic
Nah
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:24 am to TheWalrus
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Nashville has had flooding and tornado problems in recent years
It is beyond easy to find a place that will never flood in Nashville. You can drive around or just pull up elevation maps and pick out where it floods. It's predictable, and the places that flood over and over aren't worth crap. I'm happy we moved here after bitching about LA for too long. You'll save 5 figures a year easy on taxes and insurance as well as 500 other benefits like air quality, proximity to more places than just TX/AR/MS/AL, 4 seasons.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:24 am to tigerbait3488
For me it was when the lights went out during the Super Bowl. That was a red flag I could not overlook.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:24 am to tigerinthebueche
Medical props this area up. I bought in Mulberry and learned that.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:25 am to cahoots
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More urban, walkable designs are actually prohibited or discouraged in the vast majority of this country.
Are you saying that because suburban zoning is very rarely mixed zoning and typically strictly residential?
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:26 am to cahoots
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More urban, walkable designs are actually prohibited or discouraged in the vast majority of this country.
i said earlier in that post that i'm all for eliminating those zoning laws in urban areas. it's been weaponized by NIMBYs, especially in California
In areas that have plenty of land, they'll look like Houston eventually, even without zoning. Some people want to live the urban life and some people want affordable space.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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only if you don't have space, like Europe
Why are you so attached to archaic city planning and the necessity to have a car to do literally anything?
That just screams inefficient and bad to me.
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also, you're forcing people to live in extremely small housing at a higher cost to achieve this.
??
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We have cities without single-use family zoning. Houston has no zoning. It's not what I would call walkable or bikeable and has millions living in suburbs outside of the city. It even has plenty of mixed-used areas in the developmental style you desire.
I have lived in HTX for almost 9 years, I am well versed in the problems here.
I live in a neighborhood where I have bars, restaurants, and trails I can walk to and ride my bike to as well. I could theoretically walk or bike to the HEB near me but that is a headache lugging groceries home so I don't.
Houston has neighborhoods that are walkable and is slowly becoming more walkable inside the city.
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I'm all for eliminating single-family zoning within major urban areas to allow more development (and to frick NIMBYs who have used their political power to thwart more reasonable, incremental development). But it makes no sense outside of those urban areas.
Then we don't disagree
I think we can apply some of the same principles on smaller scales to smaller cities.
Mixed use zoning is just objectively better. It just is.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:29 am to cahoots
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But the reason why the US is so suburbanized is exactly because the government did plan it that way. Contrary to popular belief, we don't take a hands off approach to planning. More urban, walkable designs are actually prohibited or discouraged in the vast majority of this country.
frickin based. Suburbs are horrible and the way they were constructed is a drain on the country. They are bad for everyone and need to be redesigned and reimagined.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:31 am to jclem11
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Why are you so attached to archaic city planning and the necessity to have a car to do literally anything?
I'm not. I live close to my work and could walk if it I wanted to (weather kind of makes that untenable for half the year).
I'm attached to allowing people who want to live in non-apartments with lots of space without paying a premium for it to do so, while allowing people who want to pay much more for a much smaller space in urban areas to do so. I'm for freedom and choice.
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Mixed use zoning is just objectively better. It just is.
Only in urban areas, so it makes no sense to discuss it in context of suburban areas.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:33 am to jclem11
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Suburbs are horrible and the way they were constructed is a drain on the country. They are bad for everyone and need to be redesigned and reimagined
That's sure strong Woke thinking right there...
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:34 am to DiamondDog
i hope making jokes at someone else’s loss makes you feel big and tough. it’s a god damn shame. be sure to make jokes when i bury my mom too.
fricking coward.
fricking coward.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:35 am to LSUgirl4
I am sorry that you are dealing with all of that
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:36 am to jclem11
quote:Yea man, having literally anything I need within a 5 mile radius is such a drain on my life
Suburbs are horrible and the way they were constructed is a drain on the country. They are bad for everyone and need to be redesigned and reimagined.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:36 am to jclem11
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Suburbs are horrible and the way they were constructed is a drain on the country. They are bad for everyone and need to be redesigned and reimagined.
How? Suburbs allow families to have yards and space in neighborhood settings. My experience with suburbs has been its fantastic for kids and great for families.
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