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re: Astronomers may have found giant alien 'megastructures' orbiting star

Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:10 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:10 am to
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So what resources do aliens "mine" on Earth?


Anything they could mine would be much easier to find and get in space as well. We are not a planet that has a large stockpile of precious metals compared to other places in our solar system, nevertheless the universe.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:10 am to
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although she is spouting off things as "facts' all over the place


Yeah, "she" loves to speak in absolutes. But, "she" is almost certainly and alter anyway, so it's to be expected.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70420 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:11 am to
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Which of these theories do you believe?


None, thiugh i find those theories fascinating, thought-provoking, and entertaining. I don't think early humans learned these things from aliens; I think they learned them from other humans. There was a great flood a the end of the last ice age. 200 miles of extra land extended out on most continents. The Persian Gulf, English Channel, Mediterranian Sea, and Black Sea were all fertile river valleys which could have easily supported civilization.

Today, nearly 90% of the world's population lives within 200 miles of the coast. All of these hypothetical prehistory civilizations would have been wiped out at the end of the las ice age by sudden, catestrophic flooding (some estimates say that the Persian gulf went from dry to ocean in less than 2 months).

If we continue to hunt for civization in the areas that were flooded at the end of the last ice age, i think that we will discover one or more earlier civilizations, whose survivors taught the less sophisticated people inland and founded the first civilizations we onow of from written history, which emerge after the end of the last ice age.
This post was edited on 10/16/15 at 11:14 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:12 am to
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We don't even have a clue how they build the things, much less all the reasons they are there in the first place.

But we do. This is where you sound like Heather.

There are umpteen completely plausible explanations of how the pyramids were built. The "why" is even easier...most of them were final resting places/tombs for their leaders (and you have to consider how much things like spirituality played into those cultures as well).

I hope this thread is still around on Monday, cuz I'm about to peace out of work. But I love threads like these though.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104021 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:13 am to
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Kinda like whites having the technology and making blacks pick cotton you mean.


No, nothing like that at all.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156510 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:13 am to
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Anything they could mine would be much easier to find and get in space as well. We are not a planet that has a large stockpile of precious metals compared to other places in our solar system, nevertheless the universe.

But, again, you are basing this idea on the fact that they may want was we (as Earth-bound humans) think are "precious." And you can't do that.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:13 am to
Sorry I was in a meeting. Not sure how far this thread has gone in the last hour but everything you listed has been debunked. Many hypothesise have been offered to explain all of those. The least supported hypothesis so far is fricking aliens.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:15 am to
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kingbob


I can buy all that. I don't see why some of the ancient legendary civilizations are all that implausible from what we know of history. They just flooded after the Ice Age and then went on to form new civilizations. We found Troy, so I think others may have been around, but they are just exaggerated.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104021 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:16 am to
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None, thiugh i find those theories fascinating, thought-provoking, and entertaining.


There you go.

It's certainly interesting, but when you look at all the different theories on how and why these ancient places were built, the least likely seems to be aliens.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:17 am to
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Sorry I was in a meeting. Not sure how far this thread has gone in the last hour but everything you listed has been debunked. Many hypothesise have been offered to explain all of those. The least supported hypothesis so far is fricking aliens.


You are like 1a of my favorite posters now. Just saying.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:18 am to
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But, again, you are basing this idea on the fact that they may want was we (as Earth-bound humans) think are "precious." And you can't do that.


Any material you can find on Earth you can also find in abundance in the rest of the solar system. If they were here, then it wasn't for mining. Maybe it was for the life and the environment, but that's the only thing that separates Earth from any other place in our solar system.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19465 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:19 am to
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Technologically, we are intelligent as hell. But are we really in this thread discounting shite ancient civilizations descovered, created, built, etc.? I mean, the Greeks are only responsible for some of the most important ideaologies in human history. But yeah, let's go ahead and say that they weren't samrt enough to create intricate/complex things without alien assitance


If the smartest people of today weren't working on computer/tech related things and instead dedicated their life's work to working with stone, I bet they would be able to figure out how the pyramids, etc. were built. That being said, I still believe there is a good possibility of intelligent life being out there somewhere, and I still don't automatically discount one of them visiting Earth sometime in the past
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30317 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:19 am to
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Why is there evidence of Diluted Hydrochloric Acid and Hydrated Zinc in the Great Pyramid?



First of all, pure water can be considered diluted hydrochloric acid.

Secondly, the inside of the pyramids were coated with salt, used as a desiccant to absorb moisture.
Combine hydrochoric acid and salt and you release hydrogen gas, which is poisonous, which would kill idiots trying to rob the pyramids.

Now how about you answer your own question instead of just using a question to answer mine? or should i just watch the ancient aliens episode that covers this?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104021 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:20 am to
Maybe there's some advanced alien race that views the Earth as a giant zoo, and the ancient aliens that helped build the pyramids were kind of like a kid that fell over the wall into the monkey enclosure.

That's why they were playing with blocks.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:21 am to
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or should i just watch the ancient aliens episode that covers this?


This. The dude with the exceptional hair is much more convincing than me.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70420 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:21 am to
Their are ruins on the island of Santorini, buried beneath 20' or more of lava flows and ash of an advanced civilization as old as the pyramids. They have 5 story buildings, running hot and cold water, and advanced drainage and sewage systems. Aliens? I doubt it, but Atlantis? Potentially. It lies at the right location and was destroyed by a supervolcanic eruption, documented by both the egyptians and moses.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30317 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:30 am to
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This. The dude with the exceptional hair is much more convincing than me.



You got some original thoughts, or info from sources other than a tv show made for entertainment, and mainly, money?
I want to hear your thoughts on why the hydrochloric acid was there. You brought it up.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104021 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:39 am to
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Their are ruins on the island of Santorini, buried beneath 20' or more of lava flows and ash of an advanced civilization as old as the pyramids. They have 5 story buildings, running hot and cold water, and advanced drainage and sewage systems.


They couldn't have been all that advanced if they decided to build their city in an active volcano caldera. Good thinking, there.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26023 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:44 am to
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I hold the belief that modern man isn't as intelligent as it likes to believe. Ancient man was able to accomplish more than they're given credit for through techniques simply lost through time. The Roman steam engine is an example of this.


This is the best argument.
This post was edited on 10/16/15 at 11:47 am
Posted by rehtaeh
Member since Oct 2013
4487 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:51 am to
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Today, nearly 90% of the world's population lives within 200 miles of the coast. All of these hypothetical prehistory civilizations would have been wiped out at the end of the las ice age by sudden, catestrophic flooding (some estimates say that the Persian gulf went from dry to ocean in less than 2 months).

If we continue to hunt for civization in the areas that were flooded at the end of the last ice age, i think that we will discover one or more earlier civilizations, whose survivors taught the less sophisticated people inland and founded the first civilizations we onow of from written history, which emerge after the end of the last ice age.


This is compelling except perhaps those civilizations were likely helped by ancient alients.

I suspect that when we find these lost sophisticated civilizations, we'll see only more evidence of ancient alien assistance.

Pretty cool info about the Persian Gulf
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