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re: ‘Astonishing’ depravity in sexual abuse of more than 600 in Baltimore’s archdiocese

Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:50 pm to
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I understand why sexual abuse is rampant in religious settings, especially Catholicism. As horrible as it is it at least makes sense why something like that would attract pedophiles (similar to teachers). What I don’t understand is why once you know someone is diddling kids, you would ignore it, accept it, or even cover it up. Like that makes no logical sense. Even if you argued that the church doesn’t want to lose an already depleted source of priests, they’re fricking child molesters/monsters. Nothing good can come from helping to enable more of that behavior. More kids get abused, and once the story eventually comes out more lives are ruined and the church looks that much worse. So it makes sense to stop it as soon as it is discovered and try to move on more positively.

As a lifelong catholic (though I don’t really practice it much these days), that’s something I’ve never understood. And every time shite like this comes out it just makes the church/religion look even more stupid, evil, etc. It’s stupid.

Well said.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14358 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:56 pm to
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understand why sexual abuse is rampant in religious settings, especially Catholicism. As horrible as it is it at least makes sense why something like that would attract pedophiles (similar to teachers). What I don’t understand is why once you know someone is diddling kids, you would ignore it, accept it, or even cover it up. Like that makes no logical sense. Even if you argued that the church doesn’t want to lose an already depleted source of priests, they’re fricking child molesters/monsters. Nothing good can come from helping to enable more of that behavior. More kids get abused, and once the story eventually comes out more lives are ruined and the church looks that much worse. So it makes sense to stop it as soon as it is discovered and try to move on more positively. As a lifelong catholic (though I don’t really practice it much these days), that’s something I’ve never understood. And every time shite like this comes out it just makes the church/religion look even more stupid, evil, etc. It


It’s quite common for organizations to cover up misdeeds that hurt their bottom line. It’s the only way I can rationally think about it..

how many companies have covered up chemical spills, fraud, product risks..

How many organizations.. Boy Scouts, us military, government at all levels.. it’s human nature
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 7:58 pm
Posted by GeauxldMember
Member since Nov 2003
5401 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:13 pm to
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Every large scale organization dealing with kids is going to have pedos. Every church has had pedos. Yes the Catholic Church fricked all this up for ions and deserve scorn and much worse but the historical institution and teachings are what people support


Probably fair points, but I doubt any of those organizations or other churches wielded the power and resources of the Catholic Church— especially in that era.

The more disturbing thing to me is the two faced approach by the church to simultaneously condemn the actions and make a call to prayer from the figureheads, yet quietly use their resources to quash any legislation that would shed more light on their misdeeds and hold them financially culpable for the complicity they had in these crimes. Own what you did. Ask for forgiveness. Make amends. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

And how interesting is it that so many names were redacted from this report? Maybe some of those names belong to influential leaders of the present day church?
Posted by Prosecuted Collins
The Farm
Member since Sep 2003
7203 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:15 pm to
I wonder if they will quit going to church like the spectacle they are making off a limited edition can of white trash beer.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
128896 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:16 pm to
When is the media gonna work as hard doing stories on pedophiles in Hollywood, DC and Muslim communities as they do on the Catholic Church? The church has a putrid history but they dont have a monopoly on it.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 8:18 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:19 pm to
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When is the media gonna work as hard doing stories on pedophiles in Hollywood, DC and Muslim communities as they do on the Catholic Church? The church has a putrid history but they dont have a monopoly on it.


I thought we were against whataboutism?
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58139 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:20 pm to
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They are closet homos.


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Pretty much this.

Then explain all the Protestant ministers that have done this as well, several Protestant ministers that have molested children along with their wives
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
128896 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:20 pm to
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I thought we were against whataboutism?


I said they had a putrid history

But plenty more pedophiles to go after
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58139 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:21 pm to
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I wonder if they will quit going to church like the spectacle they are making off a limited edition can of white trash beer.
it’s easier to quit going to church than to give up beer
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70616 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:23 pm to
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In 1987 at St. Louis parish in Clarksville, one victim was made to wear a loincloth while Mike poked him with a heated pin and forced him to run laps around the parish gym as Mike lashed him with a bullwhip. Mike tied the victim up, suspending him from a basketball backboard, and whipped him 150 times, according to a diary entry from the victim.


I mean there’s no way this boy had parents involved in his life if they were getting away with this kind of sadistic shite.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40121 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:23 pm to
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The more disturbing thing to me is the two faced approach by the church to simultaneously condemn the actions and make a call to prayer from the figureheads, yet quietly use their resources to quash any legislation that would shed more light on their misdeeds and hold them financially culpable for the complicity they had in these crimes. Own what you did. Ask for forgiveness. Make amends. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.



shite there’s a story out there that heavily implies that billionaire gayle benson is personally calling accusers and negotiating for their silence against nola clergymen lmao
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
105977 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:23 pm to
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The Maryland Catholic Conference, which represents all three dioceses operating in the state, opposed the bill at every turn and is expected to challenge it in court.


Because without a statute of limitations, they’re almost certainly going to end up paying out of the arse for it in lawsuits and more.

frick them. I know a couple of the kids (now adults) that were molested by Priests here in Louisville and it was covered up until a few years ago. I have no sympathy.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:26 pm to
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Story is behind a paywall


Was it a porn website?
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9445 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:30 pm to
No,no,no. Didn’t they give full disclosure years ago ?
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58139 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:30 pm to
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shite there’s a story out there that heavily implies that billionaire gayle benson is personally calling accusers and negotiating for their silence against nola clergymen lmao
and how many times a pay out is all the accusers are looking for? Pretty many

I’m not denying that there are molestors in the Catholic Church - but I know of people just looking for money - and I know of people that were molested by Protestant ministers that were paid to keep quiet as well

None of the churches are innocent
Posted by LeMarteau
Hoover, AL (B.R. native)
Member since Mar 2008
2248 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:31 pm to
If you’ve ever visited a seminary this is not shocking at all. The weird vibes are physically troubling.
Posted by F16HT1N6 T163R5
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
342 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:32 pm to
I will never return to the Catholic church.

Indefensible.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34842 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:34 pm to
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Catholics---the OG groomers


Pretty sure they didnt spend too much time on grooming. They went straights to hard core abuse.
Posted by Lazer Legz
South
Member since May 2020
365 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:36 pm to
Not surprised
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:42 pm to
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for the last 20+ years


This abuse has been happening for literally millennia. Imagine what they were doing to kids in the 900s.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 8:42 pm
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