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re: Ascension Parish pumps floodwaters from Spanish Lake into Bayou Manchac..

Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:36 am to
Posted by The Implication
south philly
Member since Sep 2019
527 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:36 am to
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Because they built houses in the fricking swamp.


Hey baw, that's my line
Posted by meangene323
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
879 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:55 am to


Bayou Manchac is the divider between East Baton Rouge Iberville and Ascension parish. It drains the watershed of each of these areas. The runoff from Baton Rouge should not overflow bayou manchac and drain into the other two parishes.
This post was edited on 5/25/21 at 11:01 am
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15199 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:00 am to
That is some nasty water.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15790 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:04 am to
Well...this explains why the water around Burbank and Highland really hasn’t moved much.
Posted by Taxing Tiger
Member since Mar 2013
649 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:13 am to
Wrong. It’s because Manchac is jammed up and needs to be dredged. But it’s a protected waterway so no one is willing to touch the issue. Go check the gauges. Manchac-Prairieville gauge, which is DOWN river is 4 feet lower than Manchac-Alligator Bayou gauge. Something is preventing the free flow of water between those two gauges.
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3268 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:17 am to
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pumping lots of water to the MS River


Bayou Manchac used to flow into the Mississippi River before humans altered the course of Mother Nature. The Army Corps of Engineers really should build a flood control structure where the dam is to relieve the bayou at times like these. Maybe the We-need-a-City-of-St.-George crowd can focus their efforts on building such a structure since the City-Parish won't even consider it.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:25 am to
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Bayou Manchac used to flow into the Mississippi River before humans altered the course of Mother Nature. The Army Corps of Engineers really should build a flood control structure where the dam is to relieve the bayou at times like these. Maybe the We-need-a-City-of-St.-George crowd can focus their efforts on building such a structure since the City-Parish won't even consider it.


Too big for the city parish to undertake by itself. Very much needs a regional cooperation and agreement to cover those costs.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72096 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:27 am to
Being inter-parish makes it a state issue IMO and the corps of destruction need to fix it. They have many millions of dollars of backlogged projects already though, so it won't happen any time soon.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:27 am to
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The runoff from Baton Rouge should not overflow bayou manchac and drain into the other two parishes.


The map you posted shows how ridiculous it is that a temporary aqua dam can be installed to hijack 80% of a flood plain.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:28 am to
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Curious, what do the SWB pumps in Nola do?


They fail.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:31 am to
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Being inter-parish makes it a state issue IMO


Has to. The flood plain is across 3 parishes and the bayou itself is on the parish line. And it's 3 parishes that refuse to cooperate with each other.

I think they need to dredge Manchac, install pumps on the west end of Manchac to move excess water over the levee into the Mississippi River. Then an actual canal to drain the Spanish Lake swamp in a similar pattern in Iberville near Honeywell.

Then an agreement between all three parishes on what is defined as protected watershed that can't be encroached on development or aqua dams.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41062 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:38 am to
Help me understand... so they are actually moving water from one side of the road to the other side of the road?

Could they not just build a couple of pipes under the waterway and have a pump to do this all the time? Or can be turned on when needed?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72096 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:44 am to
Eye of the beholder. Looks to me that its ridiculous that a whole bunch of shite can be built to convert a floodplain into a retention pond.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35084 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:54 am to
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Wrong. It’s because Manchac is jammed up and needs to be dredged. But it’s a protected waterway so no one is willing to touch the issue. Go check the gauges. Manchac-Prairieville gauge, which is DOWN river is 4 feet lower than Manchac-Alligator Bayou gauge. Something is preventing the free flow of water between those two gauges.

this
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35084 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:56 am to
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Bayou Manchac used to flow into the Mississippi River before humans altered the course of Mother Nature.
you sure about that.... Given the higher elevations near the MS river as opposed to the lowering elevations along the route of bayou manchac - it would appear the river flowed into bayou manchac most of the time,

except for tidal back flow when river stages were low.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:57 am to
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Looks to me that its ridiculous that a whole bunch of shite can be built to convert a floodplain into a retention pond.


It's not a floodplain. It's a swamp.

The whole state is a floodplain. Not all of it is a swamp.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6538 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 12:00 pm to
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How many pumps are they running to pump 21 million gallons per minute?


Obligatory 350. But it may actually be 350
Posted by The Implication
south philly
Member since Sep 2019
527 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 12:01 pm to
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Help me understand... so they are actually moving water from one side of the road to the other side of the road?

Could they not just build a couple of pipes under the waterway and have a pump to do this all the time? Or can be turned on when needed?


WAFB link Not sure if the locks are open now but this whole situation is shady and has been for years.
Posted by Triggerr
Member since Jul 2013
2016 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 12:03 pm to
Didn’t that road through the middle of there being as high as it is create the first dam/ levee to stop the water from traveling into its natural drainage? Are there properly sized and maintained culverts under the road. I don’t remember seeing them if there are
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 12:12 pm to
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WAFB link Not sure if the locks are open now but this whole situation is shady and has been for years.



The swamp doesn't drain out of Iberville or Ascension on it's own without the lock. The runoff from parts of AP and IP still flow into the swamp naturally. It's not really a problem except that some people decided it would be a great place to put houses and trailers.

Shady as frick. Especially when there's an aqua dam installed on the road on top of the lock to block the flow from EBR and northern Ascension into the swamp.

IMO this is the worst of Louisiana right here. Zero cooperation, a little racism, a big helping of incompetence, plenty of stupidity, and every parish looking after their own interest when they could likely identify a lasting solution and get it funded if they just cooperated.
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