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re: Articles on Men returning home and the Reverse wage gap

Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:00 am to
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:00 am to
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that's not really unreasonable.


It absolutely is. This isn't a strep throat test or liver panel that shows what's wrong. Mental health is extremely difficult and there's no one size fits all solution. There's no easy test to definitively determine whether or not someone has ADHD.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:00 am to
Ok, but student loan debt isn't a factor in the macro wage (gap) data this thread is about.

I'm not saying going to college is the best way to make money for everyone.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:01 am to
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It is also on us physicians to not throw medications at every one of these children.



True they do carry some of the burden, but a prescription isn't a legal mandate. The parent can step in and ask for other options.

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The vast majority of parents are overly trusting of physicians.



Absolutely. If these parents want to find out what's going on with their kid, take them to a psychologist who can't write scripts.
Posted by volod
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:02 am to

Nursing being a medical profession is not always included in STEM calculations.

Nursing is one of few exceptions of a woman dominated major that does very well. Same for Pharmacy.

That said, nursing programs are very competitive. It still hold true that women are not getting the most marketable degrees as a whole.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:05 am to
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I'm laughing because it's not the overdiagnosis that's the problem. It's the over acceptance of the diagnosis by the parents that is. Just because one doctor says to put them on Adderall doesn't make it valid.

It's on the parents to make sure they're doing what's right for their own child.

You can't put that on the parents for trusting a doctor. That's the kind of shite that anti-vaxers say.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:07 am to
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There's only 80 grit toilet paper in the Breesus household
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:08 am to
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I'm laughing because it's not the overdiagnosis that's the problem. It's the over acceptance of the diagnosis by the parents that is. Just because one doctor says to put them on Adderall doesn't make it valid.

if they don't put the kids on medication to sedate them, the schools will punish them

the schools have been engineered to punish these kids if they don't conform, and on top of that, they gear the education towards feminine traits. this is why college is like 55-45 or something insane now. i think graduation may be as high as 60-40
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:08 am to
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You can't put that on the parents for trusting a doctor. That's the kind of shite that anti-vaxers say.


Helluva comparison there

Blindly trusting a doctor giving your child legal meth is insane. That stuff completely changes your personality, eating habits, sleeping habits, etc. If a parent is doing that just because they're hyper or can't sit still, you know normal boy behavior, they are insane.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:09 am to
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if they don't put the kids on medication to sedate them, the schools will punish them


Huh?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:10 am to
I'm not saying that parents should blindly follow every Dr's advice, but I also can't blame them for trusting a medical professional in advising them on their child's development.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:11 am to
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You can't put that on the parents for trusting a doctor. That's the kind of shite that anti-vaxers say.
True. I don’t equate ADHD diagnoses with that of vaccine use, but the sentiment towards trusting physicians is the same.

Diagnoses are too frequent and too numerous.

School systems need to be re-evaluated and altered accordingly.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:16 am to
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but I also can't blame them for trusting a medical professional in advising them on their child's development.


They have special doctors for these issues though. If you go to one without prescription writing ability, all they can do is recommend what to do.

It's like trusting your PCP for gyno issues.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:20 am to
I get it, dude. You think most parents are dumb. That's why I'm saying the doctors need to be more careful about these diagnoses because the parents put all their trust in them.
Posted by volod
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:33 am to
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the schools have been engineered to punish these kids if they don't conform, and on top of that, they gear the education towards feminine traits. this is why college is like 55-45 or something insane now. i think graduation may be as high as 60-40


I've never really understood the fascination with graduation rates out of proper context.

Most of these women graduating will end up in low wage jobs that will cap off early. A good number were only in college to find a man. (The MRS degree is a real phenomenon)

Some will become great professionals. My point is that what matters is types of degrees earned and how it translates into our job market.

This is the real issue that is never discussed. Graduating a huge number of liberal arts /social science majors with no skills companies need is bad for the economy at large.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:35 am to
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Most of these women graduating will end up in low wage jobs that will cap off early. A good number were only in college to find a man. (The MRS degree is a real phenomenon)

Link?
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:37 am to
I agree with that. All I'm saying is that it starts at home though.
Posted by volod
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:42 am to
women dominate low paying majors

college educated women and marriage

I know you don't like me. That's ok. But it's typically well known women dominate lower paying professions.

I am not a misogynist. All I am saying is that we need more people in the trades and other profession based majors that cater to what our society needs.



This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 9:47 am
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:44 am to
I posted this yesterday, but it fits in to this topic:

LINK

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One day last year, a citizen on a prairie path in the Chicago suburb of Elmhurst came upon a teen boy chopping wood. Not a body. Just some already-fallen branches. Nonetheless, the onlooker called the cops. Officers interrogated the boy, who said he was trying to build a fort for himself and his friends. A local news site reports the police then "took the tools for safekeeping to be returned to the boy's parents."

Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:44 am to
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The page you are looking for falls outside of the margin of error.


Don't stop being volod, volod.

That SU education on full display.
Posted by volod
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Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:49 am to
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Don't stop being volod, volod. 


Links worked fine for my electronic devices.

The first link is very slow.
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