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re: Articles on Men returning home and the Reverse wage gap

Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:51 am to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:51 am to
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One day last year, a citizen on a prairie path in the Chicago suburb of Elmhurst came upon a teen boy chopping wood. Not a body. Just some already-fallen branches. Nonetheless, the onlooker called the cops. Officers interrogated the boy, who said he was trying to build a fort for himself and his friends. A local news site reports the police then "took the tools for safekeeping to be returned to the boy's parents."


what the frick?

Kid building a fort using tools and brawn like a real man is stopped and punished.

This world is fricked.

Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:53 am to
People have been extremely slow to talk about this issue but there has been an educational gap for decades and it continues to widen.

By a gap I mean a substantially higher percentage of girls than boys graduating from high school and a similar higher percentage of women than men going on to attend and graduate from college. The percentages were approximately equal back at the start of the 80s but are now about 58 to 59 percent girls in high school graduating classes to 41 or 42 percent boys.

These sex differences are seen most prominently in lower socioeconomic groups (poor whites and poor blacks) but are also seen in middle class families less commonly headed by single parents.

It has taken decades for most people in education to voluntarily bring up this education gap as an area of major concern
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:56 am to
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It has taken decades for most people in education to voluntarily bring up this education gap as an area of major concern


Christina Hoff Sommers -an actual feminist- has been talking about this disparity for years yet she has been completely maligned by other feminists for daring to bring it up.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:05 am to
You are correct. My shorthand descriptor was intended to represent it as an area of concern that the majority of educators are not interested in prioritizing.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:08 am to
Oh, I agree. I think part of the problem is that it's a field largely dominated by young women who came up under that very system.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 10:11 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:14 am to
A big issue with the American Educational system is we try to push too many into college instead of trades. Too many young men drop out of the education system literally or figuratively because they should be doing some 'real work' with their hands early on instead of book work. The trades are shamed when instead we need to move toward 'starting an electricians business' instead of being an electrician.

2ndly, the main reason in my experience women suck at being upper management is they simply don't have the personalities. That goes a long way and people won't admit it. Too many women are either too nice to make tough decisions or too 'bitchy' to make them. Women just are not good at firing people, devoting people, or otherwise making negative decisions that affect lives so they therefore work around those decisions which end up being very bad business in the long run.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 10:16 am
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:09 am to
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It's very simple, there's a large majority of our male population who cant change a fricking tire, let alone actually fend for themselves.


It is unfortunate how car companies have designed cars to discourage Home repair. I hate changing tires with bull shite scissor jacks they give for stock
Posted by NoHoTiger
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:15 am to
Women earn more early? Easy...strippers, bar tenders, waiters. Females are going to earn more in this category because men are going to tip young good-looking women more. Just a few outliers will skew those numbers drastically.

The drop off later, kids and family. Women are less likely to re-enter or to re-enter looking to rule the world after kids.

Don't really need no fancy learning to figure this out.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:29 am to
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bar tenders, waiters. Females are going to earn more in this category


Not the case in my experience. Sure there is a small portion of female bartenders and waiters that do well, say 10%. But the majority are lazy and don'y hustle like the men do. Women are there for the eye candy behind the bar, the men serve the customers. There are some women that crush don't get me wrong, but I bet on average men serve 2 or 3 drinks to every 1 that a woman does.

Most men working prefer about a 2 men to 1 woman ratio, it sucks 1 to 1 most of the time because the women usually just don't crank the drinks out and help the customers enough.

Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of shite head men bartenders and waiters. I'm just saying that if a man wants to work hard and hustle at those jobs, they can do equally fine.
Posted by NoHoTiger
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:30 am to
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Too many women are either too nice to make tough decisions or too 'bitchy' to make them. Women just are not good at firing people, devoting people, or otherwise making negative decisions that affect lives so they therefore work around those decisions which end up being very bad business in the long run.

This is all true. I only had to fire one person in my life and I hated it. It was the right thing to do for the company, she was a crappy employee, and I still hated doing it.

Nice women will get manipulated and played. Bitchy women will get ignored. It's difficult to find a woman to do what needs to be done at that level, and to find people who will respect her while doing it.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:32 am to
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if a man wants to work hard and hustle at those jobs, they can do equally fine.

Sure. But women can just be hot and do fine.

My post was mostly tongue-in-cheek, btw.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:32 am to
Also with nursing, a female-dominated field, it is really easy to hit the ground running once you get out of school and get that first nursing job.


So you could be making good money in your 20s easily. Especially if you don't have kids yet and are pulling overtime.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:58 am to

Thanks NoHoTiger. You always keep it real.
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