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re: Army's 'Captain America' dies by suicide after nearly a dozen combat tours

Posted on 7/10/20 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 9:40 pm to
I'm sure these endless, pointless wars play into it. I mean who wants to be in Afghanistan when it's not obvious what the hell you're fighting for?

It's not like WWII, especially in the Pacific, where there was a lot of rage against the enemy.
Posted by PacoPicopiedra
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Member since Apr 2012
1323 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 9:43 pm to
When I am able, I give what I can to this group:

PTSDUSA /Camp Hope

First heard about them from The Michael Berry Show here in Houston. They really are a wonderful group to support.
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
8088 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 9:45 pm to
I think you may have taken my post out of the context i meant it in. I intended no ill will towards the man at all by it.

For a first post that came out as you are pretty upset about this mans death which is understandable but i'm now concerned that you have these demons and relate to that depressive thought process that leads people down that dark path.

If you are hurting with these feelings I hope you are talking to someone and try to work through it so you don't fall into the same trap.

I'm not saying this in any coy or combative way. Are you ok?
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20414 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

I've given up trying to convince people that The Forever War is going to "break the sword." Sending our Army and USMC folks to the war zone for the majority of their 20 year career is going to eventually break the sword. It's breaking individuals. It has the potential to break our military system.


Our military system is already broken.

You have a small percentage of troops carrying a large brunt of the burden. The shift to more specialized/smaller units carrying out the missions is only going to make it worse. Don’t get me started on the ones that skate deployments with bogus injuries or get pregnant.

I was only active duty for 6 years and I spent more than 3 of those in Iraq or training to go to Iraq, and I wasn’t in SF or a ranger battalion whose tempo is at least twice that. I can’t imagine having stayed in to hit my 20 at that tempo.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5886 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 9:55 pm to
For some it's too much to overcome. When you've seen, and experienced some of the actions that have been asked of you, other things take a back burner.

When you realize blood can turn black, and get sticky like glue it changes you.

Most go in young around 18, and are very impressionable. They basically grow up under a controlled structure, that takes care of them, and supports them. They are asked to do things many could not even understand unless you've experienced it. The long timers and special ops see an even different side of it all.

The hardest part is coming home to realize all that you fought for, and believed in was a lie bc the politicians have there own agenda!!!


Go with god brother!!!

This post was edited on 7/10/20 at 10:09 pm
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 9:57 pm to

Yeah, that's a false flag.



- PTB
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28156 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:07 pm to
Both my CO and one of my squad members committed suicide. We lost 6 others on the deployment and a few other minor casualties. I wish I had an answer .
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94749 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

Veteran suicide is always going to be an issue as long as we are fighting vague wars for vague causes to help people that couldn't give a shite about us.


Common denominator?

Politicians

This country is in dire need of term limits.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5886 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:14 pm to
There really is no answer...


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294782 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:14 pm to
Men rarely adjust well to normal life after war. They become warriors, you don't get the brotherhood nor the rush of battle in the real world.
Posted by Northshoretiger87
Member since Apr 2016
4954 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:15 pm to
GW will now have another person to paint a portrait of. Helps him feel better about the blood on his hands. Frick him.

RIP Andrew. I admire your tenacity, strength, love of country and war buddies. Prayers for your family.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

Mike da Tigah


A very good friend committed suicide very recently. Marine, NOPD, USCBP Interdiction agent...… Married, young kid..... Literally no one saw it coming. Still do not know what sent him over the edge....

Shocking and painful.

RIP Ryan and Andy

ETA: Like this guy, my friend did it with a bullet to the head. He was out in the garage and his wife and kid were inside the house...… I'll never understand, but we simply must do more to help our returned soldiers. It's horrific.
This post was edited on 7/10/20 at 10:46 pm
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14366 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:45 pm to
Reality is that sometimes there’s nothing you can do..
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

WTF does this say about us? Seriously....



Talk to Lindsay Graham, McConnell, both Bushes, and seance John McCain because they sent an entire generation of men to go die in a godforsaken desert to enrich themselves.

For the life of me, I can't see how people can read these stories, and continue to think Nation Building is a great idea.
This post was edited on 7/10/20 at 10:50 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:54 pm to
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My dad did this on Thanksgiving Eve 2010. He walked from the living room to his BR in our camp and that was it. My mom, wife and our 2 young kids were about 15 feet away and heard everything He never got over the things he experienced in Vietnam. I think about him and that night everyday.


My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 11:07 pm to
One of the most depressing things I’ve read in a while
Posted by dvick03
Member since Jul 2020
4 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 11:07 pm to
I didn’t personally know the guy. But I know that every day there are people who appear to be the some of the toughest in the world and people look up to them for believing they are lose the battle within themselves with no sign of a struggle on the outside. I always tried to believe everything is good but I have finally accepted the fact that I have changed because of the choices I made in life. There are good days as well as bad ones, but trying to be better every day so I can remain present in my children’s lives is what I think about every day to try and keep myself from veering off too far in the wrong direction. But I know plenty of people who aren’t as fortunate and do not have anyone to help them through it, or have spent so much time in the fast paced life of combat that their mind stays focused on survival and when life slows down everything comes back around at once, and they are just never able to recover from it.

I understand where you were coming from with your comment, and if it was your every day construction worker, real estate agent, car salesman etc., I would agree with you and I would likely think the way you do. But for a guy like this who has lived through things that most people would not believe, because the human brain won’t even let a person believe that things war can exist. And someone who also happens to be in a leadership position, he lives with the pressure of making sure he takes on everyone else’s pain and problems over his own, he carries the responsibility of making sure they do not end up being the next face on the news. Until you’ve walked in those shoes and felt that pain, and realize that you will never again be ‘normal’, it’s just not fair to him or anyone else that carries that burden around with them every day to make any sort of assumptions about a death like this.
This post was edited on 7/11/20 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37437 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 11:17 pm to
Who was that bro? If you don’t mind me asking. If not, cool.
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
8088 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 11:24 pm to
I'm glad you responded. You just seemed really upset and it worried me. I'm sorry you have that burden brother. Don't interalize that shite, it will eat you. Feel free to come call me an unknowing shithead again if that helps you get it out.



To elaborate a bit my first post was more of a tin foil hat maybe this is false flag or wife told him "those are jody's kids" and sent him over, not blaming the dude for doing the deed in front of her. I didn't want to speculate as both of those thoughts are disrespectful to the family and just musings of a bored mind.
This post was edited on 7/10/20 at 11:57 pm
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3785 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 11:25 pm to
quote:

He is one of the 20 combat veterans taking their lives each day -- an epidemic the military and White House are trying to stop


Maybe if we just stopped sending them to Afghanistan and other middle eastern hell holes...
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