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Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:21 pm to LNCHBOX
Ok, lump him in too.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:21 pm to boom roasted
Some people seem to be in this thread.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:22 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:In LA, the court can fix this problem on their own. Not sure if it's the same in MO.
Is the governor part of the courts in MO?
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:24 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:I read it as people advocating to let him go, by whatever means available.
Some people seem to be in this thread.
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:25 pm to DanTiger
quote:
How would you feel if you were the person he pointed it at and robbed?
There is a reason we're supposed to use logic instead of appealing to emotion
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:27 pm to TigerBait1127
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There is a reason we're supposed to use logic instead of appealing to emotion
Well logic says to lock him up since he was convicted and sentenced, emotion is harping on him being a reformed family man.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:29 pm to lsu480
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I can't feel too bad for a thug that robs a BK at gunpoint!
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:32 pm to LNCHBOX
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Well logic says to lock him up since he was convicted and sentenced, emotion is harping on him being a reformed family man.
No, that is what your argument is, which may have merit and be logical.
One could make a logical argument that the point of prison is reforming the person to be reintroduced into society and that he has reformed his own life making the sentence unnecessary.
Harping on his reforming and not being a threat =/ an appeal to emotion fallacy.
The appeal to emotion fallacy centers around appealing to subjective considerations, which is exactly what the thing I quoted did
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:34 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Ordinarily, I would have no sympathy and say lock him up and throw away the keys. But this situation is different. Im torn. On one hand, he commited armed robbery, you do the crime you do the time. But here this guy is being a model citizen. He is the epitome of what you want former criminals to become! In the past 13 years, all he has been guilty of is a couple traffic stops. 70% of the OT has worse than that! Imo, I dont think they should let him off scot free so it wont get the feeling of he got away with commiting a serious crime, but at the same time I refuse to believe he should be sent back to serve 13 years in prison. I say, give him some community servie, put him on probation, give him a couple restrictions, if he has any major frickups(which he hasnt had) within the next year, he goes to prison, if not let him continue living his life
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:36 pm to TigerBait1127
That's not my argument. I don't think he should go to jail.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:37 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
That's not my argument. I don't think he should go to jail.
I meant that is what was in the post that I responded to. Either way, mine was not an appeal to emotion
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:42 pm to QJenk
Agree.
Save the cell space for some 3X loser.
I am more concerned about getting career criminals off the streets than making an example of some numbnuts that evidently got his act together.
Save the cell space for some 3X loser.
I am more concerned about getting career criminals off the streets than making an example of some numbnuts that evidently got his act together.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:50 pm to DanTiger
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How would you feel if you were the person he pointed it at and robbed?
I'd hope he would turn his life around and not wish the same incident on another.
So it worked.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 4:01 pm to OFWHAP
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We're supposed to be a nation built on the rule of law, not the rule of emotions.
personally, i think its ridiculous to enforce them 100% as strictly as possible and that there should be some common sense involved.
frankly, i think it should be illegal for the state to wait over a decade to order someone to be jailed after a conviction. even if they arent a story of reform. keep it on his record, but let the man go back to his business, whatever that may be.
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 4/17/14 at 4:02 pm to Byron Bojangles III
The state of Missouri fricked up and they have to pay for it. The consequences have to be greater for the gov't for fricking up.
The guy should go free. He's rehabbed and a productive citizen.
The guy should go free. He's rehabbed and a productive citizen.
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 4/17/14 at 4:08 pm to OnTheBrink
The main function of jailing someone is to change criminal behavior. He did that himself without the incarceration. Let him go.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 4:09 pm to SoFla Tideroller
But you can't ignore the punishment aspect. I agree with the other posters who said community service, etc.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 4:10 pm to boom roasted
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But you can't ignore the punishment aspect.
You punish someone so they don't do something again.
If they must, put him on probation.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 4:11 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Lets lock the guy up and have him cost the system whatever the cost of incarceration is. Idk, 60k a year?
The other option is have him work and pay taxes since he turned his life around.
Well, if you work for the jails, you want him to have to go to jail.
Everyone else wants him left out.
It is ridiculous to even think about putting him in jail.
The other option is have him work and pay taxes since he turned his life around.
Well, if you work for the jails, you want him to have to go to jail.
Everyone else wants him left out.
It is ridiculous to even think about putting him in jail.
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