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Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:05 am to Spaceman Spiff
Yes, less freedoms, more government intrusion. Elections have consequences.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:08 am to BlackAdam
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Please establish which Federal agencies are arming up at higher rates, and if they are how that is inconsistent with their functions.
I'm not going to search all this as I thought the discussion was quite entertaining at work. Although, I did a quick search on his agency claim and came up with this. Make of it what you will...
LINK
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:09 am to BlackAdam
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Please establish which Federal agencies are arming up at higher rates, and if they are how that is inconsistent with their functions.
LINK
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• The Internal Revenue Service, which has 2,316 special agents, spent nearly $11 million on guns, ammunition and military-style equipment. That’s nearly $5,000 in gear for each agent.
• The Department of Veterans Affairs, which has 3,700 law-enforcement officers guarding and securing VA medical centers, spent $11.66 million. It spent more than $200,000 on night-vision equipment, $2.3 million for body armor, more than $2 million on guns, and $3.6 million for ammunition. The VA employed no officers with firearm authorization as recently as 1995.
• The Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service spent $4.77 million purchasing shotguns, .308 caliber rifles, night-vision goggles, propane cannons, liquid explosives, pyro supplies, buckshot, LP gas cannons, drones, remote-control helicopters, thermal cameras, military waterproof thermal infrared scopes and more.
• The Environmental Protection Agency spent $3.1 million on guns, ammunition and military-style equipment. The EPA has put nearly $800 million since 2005 into its “Criminal Enforcement Division.”
• The Food and Drug Administration employs 183 heavily armed “special agents.”
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:11 am to Clyde Tipton
so you think IRS agents and VA rent a cops are going to impose martial law?
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:14 am to Clyde Tipton
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propane cannons
What dis
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:20 am to Tactical Insertion
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Are we headed to martial law? by Tactical Insertion quote: propane cannons What dis
They are used to scare birds away from crops and aircraft landinding strips
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:20 am to TigerDonk
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The end is neigh!
Although, the French did declare martial law after the Paris attacks. They issued a curfew and confiscated all weapons. I could see the government doing this in individual cities under the same circumstances, but I don't think they'd ever have even a good bullshite reason for doing it nationwide.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:20 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Second, a coworker was telling that he was doing some reading on some - lets just say - "groups" that heavily support the current administration are planning on creating chaos - maybe starting as early as AUG or SEPT - so that martial law can be evoked and king nobama can get a third term.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
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EPA, USDA and even the postal service has SWAT teams. USDA and EPA are using these teams in routine inspections and invasions of innocuous activities.
Everyone should realize this is pure intimidation
The massive stockpiles of arms and ammo being built up by government agencies that have no real law enforcement role is something that's had me wondering about for some time now.
I'm not saying I believe we are a couple months from martial law. But at the same time, the government is doing things that are just not right.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:22 am to lsujro
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so you think IRS agents and VA rent a cops are going to impose martial law?
This was always my response to the loons. IRS agents, VA cops, Postmaster cops, etc would be the last people I would think that would be who I would want manning the fight against the uprising. Those people would shite a brick and run away at the first sign of a fight.
Also, those number of bullets purchased were inflated as all hell back when I researched it. Probably has to do with the way the gov. procurement system works with them issuing RFQ's for a multi year contract. To make bidding fair, they would probably have listed a millions rounds a year for five years as the baseline, but there would be no commitment to buy all of that. It would just a baseline to compare bids and they may have used worst case scenerio.
Finally, these bullet purchases were all advertised on the webs via fed.biz.ops or whatever the site is. This lets the whole world know what they are buying.
I would think if the gov. wanted to arm up, they could very easily do it through back channels that nobody would know about.
AND the funny part of what happened, is due to the hysteria that was partly to blame on this issue, bullet sales and gun sales to the general public has sky rocketed. Win for the good guys.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 10:26 am
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:23 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Second, a coworker was telling that he was doing some reading on some - lets just say - "groups" that heavily support the current administration are planning on creating chaos - maybe starting as early as AUG or SEPT - so that martial law can be evoked and king nobama can get a third term.
In other words he reads the poli board.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:24 am to Spaceman Spiff
No. I'm friends with many military/LE. They would have to enforce it, and most of the ones I know wouldn't under most circumstances. As the SOTD song goes, "Why don't presidents fight the wars, why do they always send the poor", the ultra powerful sometimes forget low middle class is who offers them protection, so in this information age it's doubtful they'd be able to get everyone on board.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 10:27 am
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:24 am to Spaceman Spiff
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I'm not one to follow conspiracy theories and all
I'm eternal night.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:24 am to notiger1997
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Win for the good guys.
Who are the good guys?
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:25 am to Spaceman Spiff
the elites are pushing for one world control and either we will hand it over to them or they will push us to the point of fighting back at which time they will declare martial law and forcibly take it.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:29 am to Darth_Vader
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The massive stockpiles of arms and ammo being built up by government agencies that have no real law enforcement role is something that's had me wondering about for some time now. I'm not saying I believe we are a couple months from martial law. But at the same time, the government is doing things that are just not right.
^This
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:31 am to Spaceman Spiff
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"groups" that heavily support the current administration are planning on creating chaos - maybe starting as early as AUG or SEPT - so that martial law can be evoked and king nobama can get a third term.
If "those people" did such a thing in a society with the number of armed civilians that we have in this country, "those people" would not last very long...at all.
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