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re: Are sprawling suburban apartment complexes a mistake?
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:18 am to TheNewOrleansSaints
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:18 am to TheNewOrleansSaints
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Agreed. We've basically just tested out Universal Basic Income during this period with the $600 federal enhanced unemployment.
I think we are still at least a decade or two away.
Everyone realizes it's coming, but it's still a ways off.
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:19 am to USMEagles
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It's an interesting question. I am wondering if D.R. Horton-style subdivisions fare any better. I'm thinking of developments that are superficially nice and clean, but are in less desirable areas and constructed using the cheapest of "builder grade" materials.
These s/d's become rental communities as soon as the owners move away. Quite often, even if a cap of rentals is placed, owners ignore it. That's when you go from 2 cars in the garage, to 5 cars parked on the street.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:24 am to ProjectP2294
Lots of mid and hi rise apartments in Toronto. Not a good look in my opinion.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:31 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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Ooh wee, I'm so excited to live with JJ and Bookman in Cabrini Green.
Wonder how many posters know that a lot of powerful Democratic politicians eventually want to do away with single family zoning.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:34 am to goofball
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I don't disagree that many are time bombs (especially larger corporate owned ones)....but how would we meet the demand for affordable housing if everything is single family homes on 1/2 acre lots?
There’s plenty of affordable housing for poor people
It’s called jail
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:35 am to StanSmith
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Toronto
Great town
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:37 am to Paul Allen
Almost as good as Kennebunkport!
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:40 am to goofball
Happening in Bossier, all the poors wany to send their kids to the "good schools" so they build big apartment complexes so the poors can get in the district. What they dont understand is they are good schools because their kids dont go there.
This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 10:46 am
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:46 am to Strannix
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all the poors wany to send their kids to the "good schools"
It's a misconception that just attending a good school begets success. If you are a bad student, it doesn't really matter where you go.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:46 am to goofball
There's one other thing to consider. Fire.
I lived in Woodway Square in Houston when it burned down. LINK
It was a great place to live with good LINK Had the buildings been high rise, had the fire started at night, I'd probably be dead right now.
It was a full five alarm fire, visible from at least eight miles away, with road accesses from three major four lane roads (Voss-Bingle, San Felipe and Woodway), helicopters looking for hot spots nearby, and with enough green space (in retrospect call them fire breaks) that half the apartments survived.
The sprawl saved us, IMO.
I lived in Woodway Square in Houston when it burned down. LINK
It was a great place to live with good LINK Had the buildings been high rise, had the fire started at night, I'd probably be dead right now.
It was a full five alarm fire, visible from at least eight miles away, with road accesses from three major four lane roads (Voss-Bingle, San Felipe and Woodway), helicopters looking for hot spots nearby, and with enough green space (in retrospect call them fire breaks) that half the apartments survived.
The sprawl saved us, IMO.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 11:00 am to TheNewOrleansSaints
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Coronavirus had widened the gap between the haves and the have nots.
Or the save and save nots. I used that as a learning experience for my older kids. I may live in a less expensive house and we don’t drive fancy new cars, but when the shite hits the fan, we’re going to be ok. I’m extremely aggressive at saving(38% of total income) I admit, but with most of my income coming from bonuses/commission I go the more cautious route.
I work in the Multifamily industry and ride with my sales team regularly, often in section 8 or some other subsidized housing. Even after 10 years I’m still floored by folks who live in section 8 on food stamps but have brand new cars, the most up to date cell phone, and enough electronics in the home to make crutchfield look novice. A coupe years ago I was in a meeting at a property. I saw this lady pull up in her new camaro (temp tags still in the window) with gigantic rims. I overheard her tell the manager that she didn’t have the $380 rent.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 11:01 am to fallguy_1978
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Tops kees all of those apartments developments afloat.
The owners of these complexes were shitting bricks a few years back when dismantling TOPS completely was being discussed.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 11:05 am to goofball
Designing cities around cars was a mistake. Humans had gotten very good at designing cities by the time the car had been invented, and those "rules" went out the window after WWII. Lots and lots of work is being produced that shows the side effects of making cars the centerpiece of city design.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 11:09 am to lsu777
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Perfect example is around LSU and the tiger land area. When I was there 20 years ago, only the back 2 roads had any section 8, now...Couldn't pay me to walk around back there at night.
College apartment complexes are like the turbo version of the time bomb. They are built so cheap that by 5 that culture creeps in after about 5 years and frat stars move on to the complex with the better pool
Posted on 10/9/20 at 11:37 am to real turf fan
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Had the buildings been high rise, had the fire started at night, I'd probably be dead right now.
Had they been a high rise, they'd have been concrete or steel framed (instead of sticks) and likely featured a lot more fire suppression equipment.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 11:37 am to BottomlandBrew
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Large-scale low-density is a terrible idea. It is a resource black hole. If everything were zoned to 1/2 acre single family, you're looking at a city expanding it's footprint on the order of a minimum of 10x land area. The amount of infrastructure needed to support that plus the reduction in arable and ecologically important land would collapse society with our current population numbers. That's not hyperbole.
You are one of the few here that gets it. One major issue is that the true cost of building AND MAINTAINING public infrastructure including streets, water, sewer, parks, and drainage is hidden from the public due to subsidies. In reality, the urban dwellers are subsidizing most of the rural and suburban development in America.
If we actually built/repaired infrastructure based on demand and use, there would be many rural/suburban roads with potholes for decades.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 11:41 am to NOLALGD
quote:facts. The libs are kind of right about rural America being a drain on everyone else tbh, and I say that as someone who grew up in the country.
In reality, the urban dwellers are subsidizing most of the rural and suburban development in America.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 12:14 pm to TheNewOrleansSaints
This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 10/9/20 at 12:22 pm to goofball
Hell yes they are, quickest way to ruin a good area and drive down property values while driving up crime rates.
The St. Tammany government should be strung up for the horrible job of planning development and allowing all the apartments that are being built.
The St. Tammany government should be strung up for the horrible job of planning development and allowing all the apartments that are being built.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 1:03 pm to goofball
yes, short term gain for seller of vacant land, long term loss for the community
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