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Are Keyless Ignition Systems Deadly? Or Is Stupidity Deadly?

Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:17 pm
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80841 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:17 pm
Car Makers Sued Over "Deadly" Keyless Ignition System

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According to the complaint, which was filed in Los Angeles federal court on Wednesday, many customers believed that if they left their vehicles running after taking the electronic key fobs with them, the engines would shut off automatically. However, the vehicles continue running and produce carbon dioxide, which the 28 named plaintiffs said can have “deadly” results for those who inhale it, including when vehicles are left in garages attached to homes.
This post was edited on 8/27/15 at 2:19 pm
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:19 pm to
are they so lazy that they can't bring themselves to push the button and shut the car off?
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5493 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:20 pm to
I agree the car should shut off if the key is X number of feet from the car, but who's dumb enough to get out of their car and not turn it off?
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80841 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:20 pm to
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are they so lazy that they can't bring themselves to push the button and shut the car off?



Yep. Just like the people that never use blinkers. That flick of the finger is just too difficult.

Hell it is called Keyless IGNITION, not Keyless Shutoff.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34340 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:21 pm to
They should've read the manual. It says the the car will run without the key. You just cannot shift out of park. fricking morons
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74674 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:21 pm to
Is this for real? People really do this?

FWIW, My Harley has keyless ignition, I have a fob like this instead.



But it's never occurred to me to just put down my kickstand and walk way leaving it running.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
27539 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:22 pm to
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I agree the car should shut off if the key is X number of feet from the car


What about if the car is moving? I've dropped someone off at the airport only to realize they had the key in their pocket. Thank God the car didn't shut off while I was driving.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80841 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:22 pm to
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They should've read the manual.


That's just crazy talk.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46437 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:22 pm to


I leave mine running when I go into a store for a 5 min or less trip. It's too hot to turn the car off for every little stop on errand day.
Posted by Real Pirate
NE LA
Member since Apr 2013
1879 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:25 pm to
quote:


I leave mine running when I go into a store for a 5 min or less trip. It's too hot to turn the car off for every little stop on errand day.



This. I leave my vehicle running all the time, take the key fob and lock the door.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63701 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:25 pm to
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I agree the car should shut off if the key is X number of feet from the car


I do NOT want this.

Can't be put into gear, sure.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
47488 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:29 pm to
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many customers believed that if they left their vehicles running after taking the electronic key fobs with them


Friggin useless millenials...
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5493 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

What about if the car is moving? I've dropped someone off at the airport only to realize they had the key in their pocket. Thank God the car didn't shut off while I was driving

or at least have some type of warning or something. if I dropped my key at work and got all the way home I'd have no way of getting back to get it
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25249 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:31 pm to
When I purchased my old Jetta with keyless ignition, the saleslman had me test drive it without the key. When I got back I asked why it was beeping at me that the key was missing, he smiled and said "thankfully you didn't stop for gas or something!"


But seriously, if you're dumb enough not to know to turn the car off, you should just go ahead and die. It's not like the car starts without pressing the button, so why would it stop.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25249 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:33 pm to
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or at least have some type of warning or something. if I dropped my key at work and got all the way home I'd have no way of getting back to get it


Uh, they do. My VW would alert me to a missing key if I threw it onto the passenger seat.
This post was edited on 8/27/15 at 2:34 pm
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5493 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

Uh, they do. My VW would alert me to a missing key if I threw it onto the passenger seat.

then problem solved. never owned a keyless car so this is news to me.
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
8364 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:54 pm to
This should fall under the "take all warning signs off things and let nature take it's course" idea.

Or just automatically qualify anyone that does this for a Darwin Award.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40411 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

I leave mine running when I go into a store for a 5 min or less trip. It's too hot to turn the car off for every little stop on errand day.


Of course.

If I have the dogs, I lock it and restart it.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89437 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

What about if the car is moving? I've dropped someone off at the airport only to realize they had the key in their pocket. Thank God the car didn't shut off while I was driving.




The car didn't make noise when they got out? Our cars do.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
27539 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:06 pm to
It may have beeped a couple of times. It showed up on the dash, and I quickly called them to come back, but it was super busy, so I had to go around again. I can't imagine how screwed I would have been if the car had just shut down on me.
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