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re: Are children the purpose of marriage?
Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:44 am to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:44 am to Crowknowsbest
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I would argue that reproduction is the basic biological purpose of every living organism on Earth, and marriage is a byproduct of that purpose in humans.
I would argue that marriage is a byproduct of the religious aspect of the institution. Absent of that, humans are perfectly suited to procreate with men having offspring from multiple partners.
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:48 am to Pecker
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I would argue that marriage is a byproduct of the religious aspect of the institution. Absent of that, humans are perfectly suited to procreate with men having offspring from multiple partners.
My guess is it developed because children do better when both the mom and dad are around as a general rule. The family unit is a hell of good start to help your offspring survive and prosper.
Everything animals do stems from an urge to survive and reproduce. I doubt humans are any different if you were to find the basic source of our institutions.
ETA: Religion's role in creating monogamous situations would be to codify that arrangement as societies developed.
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 10:51 am
Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:51 am to Tactical Insertion
Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:56 am to Pecker
Legitimize heirs (children or otherwise), consolidate property and benefits. In olden times secure alliances other transactions.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:02 am to Packer
Freakonomics did an entire podcast on it. I’ll look for it and link it as soon as I can
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Freakonomics podcast on fracking boom, single mothers, and decline in marriage
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Freakonomics podcast on fracking boom, single mothers, and decline in marriage
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 11:09 am
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:04 am to The Torch
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That's the day I'm getting divorced.
You don't have to get divorced then. Just make some meth money available to her and it will be cheaper to watch her go to prison.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:07 am to Pecker
From the Catholic, Orthodox and even the Lutheran rites in your vows you vow to lovingly accept children from the union.
If all you are getting married for is to announce to all your friends that "hey look at me, I'm 'committed' to this person" ten what is he difference between that and the teenage thing of "going steady"?
Getting married should not be treated as just some sort of extreme version dating, at least in my opinion. I personally think having kids is an innate part of the whole institution. As an atheist friend of mind said, even if you don't believe in God, you have an obligation to the species to be part of perpetuating it.
If all you are getting married for is to announce to all your friends that "hey look at me, I'm 'committed' to this person" ten what is he difference between that and the teenage thing of "going steady"?
Getting married should not be treated as just some sort of extreme version dating, at least in my opinion. I personally think having kids is an innate part of the whole institution. As an atheist friend of mind said, even if you don't believe in God, you have an obligation to the species to be part of perpetuating it.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:10 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Freakonomics did an entire podcast on it. I’ll look for it and link it as soon as I can
Just curious. Everything I could find on the subject was married vs. non-married and living apart.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:12 am to Packer
What they concluded is that even if unmarried but living together, the rates of separation (and hence single parent households) are significantly higher for unmarried versus married
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:14 am to Pecker
Children are the future.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:15 am to Pecker
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I would argue that marriage is a byproduct of the religious aspect of the institution. Absent of that, humans are perfectly suited to procreate with men having offspring from multiple partners
In the abstract you are right, but we live in a society, we are social and as such we have certain obligations to our mate(s) and offspring. Plus the female human takes a lot longer to recover from childbirth than other species. We also have to have someone taking care of the children for at least 16-20 years after birth as such stability for the child is and should be paramount and that security is best done through the binding of the male and female to each other through some sort of societal accepted institution. We are not dogs.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:19 am to Pecker
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Are children the purpose of marriage?
I am going with
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:28 am to DarthRebel
In today's society that values the individual in a hyper sort of way , marriage and procreation has become very much decoupled. Sometimes I think the homosexuals miss that point. Especially the ones who do the marriage thing for show and don't even attempt to to adopt.
It's sort of like "Looky at us, we are married too." I don't really see them as serious. Marriage is not solely some sort of expression of love....it's not just "Love Wins". It's so much more than that.
It's sort of like "Looky at us, we are married too." I don't really see them as serious. Marriage is not solely some sort of expression of love....it's not just "Love Wins". It's so much more than that.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:50 am to DrunkerThanThou
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And before you ask, the entire purpose of sex is having kids too.
I thought the purpose was to blow my load
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 9:50 am
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:00 am to KiwiHead
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As an atheist friend of mind said, even if you don't believe in God, you have an obligation to the species to be part of perpetuating it
We don't have an issue with that right now. At this point, perpetuating needs to mean trying to colonize other planets not just crank out 4 kids per couple here.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:00 am to Pecker
I’m not getting married until I’m ready to have children. I just don’t see the point. I can be 100% committed and not tie our finances together and make potential splitting more difficult. If the woman wants a long term engagement as proof of commitment, fine.
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 10:01 am
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