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re: Are all women born to bitch???

Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:16 am to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:16 am to
It’s why men communicate closeness through shared activities. Women communicate closeness by communicating. Men share an activity with people they care about. Women share their emotions and experiences with people they care about. It’s just a difference in how each gender tends to show they care. When she’s prattling on and on and on about that annoying coworker at the office, what she’s really doing is showing you that she believes that you are so important that she is willing to share everything she is with you. Women do not divorce their thoughts from their identity. That’s why they tend to bring the stresses of work home with them more often than men (assuming both jobs don’t require being on call or doing extra work while not at work). Men simply are wired to compartmentalize.

When we care about someone, we want to ease their burdens. We often view the details of our lives as drudgery that we want to spare the people we care from. Women view those details as a part of them that they want to share with those whom are priveled to be treated to that inside scoop. It’s just a completely different way to look at the purpose of communication. For men, communication is a task to accomplish a goal, a means to an end. For women, it is the end.
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 8:28 am
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35918 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:20 am to
They don't bitch when I stick my dick in em.

Unless I hit the wrong hole. They have been known to bitch about that
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:29 am to
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It wasn't about her being sore. She wanted you to complement her on her appearance and to say how proud you are about her getting on the treadmill. The key was to make sure that you phrase it in a way where it can't be construed to mean that you think she needed to lose weight. One way to do so would be to remark about your own needs to get in better shape and how much you'd enjoy taking some time to do some kind of exercise activity together.

She kept complaining because you weren't taking the hint. You failed her test. She finally shut up after you gave her the pain medicine because she realized you were never going to get the hint, you're too blind and self-centered to notice her any more, that you're clearly no longer attracted to her, you don't care, and therefore that you no longer love her. You need to make sure that you reverse that thought train ASAP by proving all of those negative thoughts wrong by your actions in the next couple days.
damn. Pecker has taught you well.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476598 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:36 am to
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Women do not divorce their thoughts from their identity. That’s why they tend to bring the stresses of work home with them more often than men (assuming both jobs don’t require being on call or doing extra work while not at work). Men simply are wired to compartmentalize.

on another note, i didn't really understand this until this relationship. i have found that the gf and i are simply polar opposites when it comes to doing stuff and we probably cannot wok on projects together.

she likens herself as a creative type so it makes it that much more disorganized (which isn't a sex-specific issue. most "creative" types don't understand what it actually takes to produce creative work. it's usually a crutch for failures or undisciplined/indecisive people and not a real goal OR people are deluded into thinking creativity is magic. producing creative work takes discipline and lots of development-work prior to the production of quality output)
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 8:43 am
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
36231 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:53 am to
It might not be so much about the relative ratio of bitching resources between men and women, although I see the point.

Something to consider: I think that there is a difference between complaining/bitching content between men and women, and that each side views the other side's complaints as unwarranted a lot of the time (hence, the term "bitching"). There are a lot of things that women complain about that men find unwarranted, and vice versa. What men might view as a valid complaint or comment, women might view as bitching. What women might view as a valid complaint or comment, men might view as bitching. This results in men saying that women bitch all the time and women pushing back on that by saying that everyone bitches.

This could also apply to differences in opinions between any two people, not just between the genders. I think if you look at two people with different careers for example, complaints will be different, and a perception of inequality of bitching will arise as well.

I guess my main point is: bitching is in the eye of the beholder.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70459 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:58 am to
Yep. I use that crutch all the time, when really, I’m just too lazy to learn how to do things right, so I procrastinate assembling a finished product because I don’t want to spend time struggling with something I’m not good at even if that’s the only way to get good at it. This is especially true with regards to recording music.

My ex has the problem of starting more projects than she has time to finish, and leaving everything as a mess until she finishes. When she does finish a project, the work is absolutely extraordinary, but she never does anything quickly and often leaves dozens of projects half-finished for months or more at a time without touching them.
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 8:59 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476598 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:59 am to
well i imagine you're a bad example for the "generic female POV". you're in STEM right? (engineering?). that alone makes you a damn near unicorn in terms of these discussions b/c so much of your life/training has been logic/data-based. i also imagine your education/work life is male-dominated
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476598 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 9:07 am to
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My ex has the problem of starting more projects than she has time to finish, and leaving everything as a mess until she finishes. When she does finish a project, the work is absolutely extraordinary, but she never does anything quickly and often leaves dozens of projects half-finished for months or more at a time without touching them.

i could take pics of this house (it's my mom's old house and we basically pay rent into a fund to pay for improvements as we go alone) to prove that i'm in the same boat. i actually did snap at one point a while back b/c the bathroom reno was taking so long and took away so much of my time when i said i could have kept playing poker and paid somebody to do this and have it done months ago

but just in general like weekend projects or day to day chores. my philosophy is to make a lit of what needs to be done, bust arse, get it done, and then that segment of my life/time is over and now it's another one (free time). it's a very effective and efficient system

she doesn't see it that way. if i get my stuff done early, then it's expected that i help finish her list. she sees things in terms of time and not accomplishments. this is literally the mindset that i fight against publicly and it drives me legit crazy sometimes (this also isn't a sex-specific issue but from what i've seen/read, it is a very common relationship dynamic)

it's like my work (i own my own business and structure it in a way that suits my wants and desires). i typically close official business at lunch on Fridays. this was originally started so i could get my ducks in a row b/c i'd be devoting a ton of time to poker friday afternoon/night and saturday day/night. i had to get my eating structure just right and finish any ancillary persona/work stuff to clear my mind. last friday she asked me when i was done and then was like "oh since you're not working, you can do x, y, and z around the house"

...

so what did i do? i went back in after lunch and stayed in my office until past 5 and got ahead on some office organization stuff

just like the chores scenario. i'm not going to bust arse to be efficient and get my stuff done if i know that just means i have to do more work. that's irrational. what humans will do is just purposefully be less efficient as they go to even out the time. that's why hourly wages for professional work are stone age thinking
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14786 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 9:17 am to
Yes, that's why it's called that.
Posted by Count Chocula
Tier 5 and proud
Member since Feb 2009
63908 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 9:19 am to
Yep. especially those on the OT.
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 9:27 am to
This thread needs to be stickied because it's life lesson #101 for those who thinking about getting married.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20252 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 9:33 am to
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Behind every successful woman is that awkward, insecure tween she used to be. Most still sorta see themselves that way.


Only if her parents fricked her up somehow. Same with guys, except we’re supposed to be the ones that keep it together.
Posted by Bryno1960
Off River Road
Member since Aug 2013
3786 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 9:34 am to
Most of the one I've been involved with are.

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Bachelors rejoice.


I do just about every single day!
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