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re: archdiocese of new orleans issues apology to abuse victims
Posted on 1/3/26 at 11:09 pm to cgrand
Posted on 1/3/26 at 11:09 pm to cgrand
I take issue with some of the wording in this form letter.
For one, why are they inserting "sisters" in this apology ahead of "brothers"?
For another... "ashamed anyone should have been sexually abused? How bout just have been? This smacks of allegedly to me.
The whole letter rings hollow.
Name and shame.
People have a right to know who to keep their children safe from.
For one, why are they inserting "sisters" in this apology ahead of "brothers"?
For another... "ashamed anyone should have been sexually abused? How bout just have been? This smacks of allegedly to me.
The whole letter rings hollow.
Name and shame.
People have a right to know who to keep their children safe from.
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Posted on 1/3/26 at 11:11 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:one story - from Mary Lou McCall
Have a read on how people who report the abuse are treated.
With abuse that happened before the man was clergy but was not reported, or might have been - the story has changed
PLEASE
Posted on 1/3/26 at 11:15 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:
one story - from Mary Lou McCall With abuse that happened before the man was clergy but was not reported, or might have been - the story has changed PLEASE
Exhibit B
Posted on 1/3/26 at 11:16 pm to cgrand
I believe the public apology was required by the settlement and lacks sincerity. Notably, it makes no mention of the decades long coverup by the church officials and points the fingers at the abusers.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 1/3/26 at 11:23 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:oh you got me
Exhibit B
Why didn’t his parents go straight to police when the fondling happened? The man was not clergy at the time - there was nothing prohibiting them from calling the police themselves.
I am not saying Wheeler was not a child molester because he was but he was not a deacon when it happened - and the fact that it may or may not have been reported prior to his ordination is up in the air. McCall was very close with Archbishop Hannan for a while - so I find it surprising nothing was done about it.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 1/3/26 at 11:29 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:
Why didn’t his parents go straight to police when the fondling happened? The man was not clergy at the time - there was nothing prohibiting them from calling the police themselves. Except maybe the parents didn’t want to be in the news themselves because they had already been enough because of their own personal problems.
Damn this really got you tilted lol.
quote:
the fact that it may or may not have been reported prior to his ordination is up in the air.
Says who?
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 1/3/26 at 11:42 pm to Jimbeaux
quote:
This is 99% false and 1% misleading.
No it isn't. That was a general statement about the Catholic Church as a whole.
Since you want to only dedend the NO Archdiocese they are still playing games with bullshite like this bankruptcy.
quote:
I’m not sure what more can be done
I'm not sure the powers that be want to do any more.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 11:44 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:
Says who?
From the article you linked:
quote:
McCall said he and his father first met with Aymond in September 2018, less than three months after Wheeler was ordained, to report that Wheeler had fondled McCall’s genitals in a movie theater when he was 10 or 11.
Later in the article - McCall’s mother said she told Hannah and Swiler about Wheeler sleeping in the same bed as her older son on a ski trip - Hannan and Swiler should’ve reported the incident - but there is no record of it.
So who knows if anything was ever really said.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 11:56 pm to GreenRockTiger
So it was, in fact, reported to aymond and nothing of note was done until McCall got the police involved.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:00 am to GreenRockTiger
I reported it for years and the church fought me for years. They threw hundreds of thousands of dollars against me to defend their position. Even after more victims came forward.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:01 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:if McCall and his parents talked to Aymond about it 3 months after Wheeler was ordained - then nothing was said prior to his ordination - which is what I am talking about
So it was, in fact, reported to aymond and nothing of note was done until McCall got the police involved.
Wheeler was not clergy when McCall was molested, and the archdiocese has no record of anything being reported until after Wheeler was ordained.
The article you linked does not mention who contacted law enforcement but it looks like law enforcement was contacted in 2018.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 12:02 am
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:02 am to southofyou
quote:which diocese?
I reported it for years and the church fought me for years.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:04 am to JohnnyKilroy
Oh, they are treated with lawyers that are buddies with the courthouse and judges. The church has no limit on the money they will spend to keep from admitting any wrongdoing.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:05 am to cgrand
I’m sure many of them and their flock post relentlessly about the Epstein files.
How ironic.
How ironic.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:08 am to southofyou
quote:yes they do have a limit and they have admitted to wrongdoing
The church has no limit on the money they will spend to keep from admitting any wrongdoing.
What you probably want is the full list of names of the abusers. That’s how most people think the church will ‘come clean’ but it’ll just lead to more lawsuits.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:09 am to cgrand
That's awfully nice of him.
Did he have any role in the coverup?
Did he have any role in the coverup?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:11 am to GreenRockTiger
quote:
That’s how most people think the church will ‘come clean’ but it’ll just lead to more lawsuits.
Line em up. Let's see who, specifically, was shuffled where and how the assault/abuse manifested where they were allowed to to set up shop. The more information the better.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 12:12 am
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:15 am to GreenRockTiger
The diocese in question that I am talking about spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to not admit any wrongdoing even though the victims in the case were horribly raped over many years by a particular priest.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:16 am to LegendInMyMind
I don’t disagree but I’m sure lawsuits will triple if people see names they recognize
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