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Anyone here ever worked at a Top 40 radio station?

Posted on 1/27/19 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 2:15 pm
I’m curious as to how these radio stations work and who’s in charge it manages what’s played during the day? Do DJs play what they want to to play or are they instructed from a home office or something?

I have kids so they’re wanting to hear the current Top 40 music. I’ve noticed that they really play the same 6-7 artists 99% of the time and the same 5-6 songs AT LEAST twice an hour. Arianna Grande, Post Malone, Halsey all seem to be on repeat quite a bit during the day. Are these record companies paying radio stations a certain amount of money to play these songs so much?

Just curious as to how these work if anyone has any info or experience.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 2:22 pm to
Buddy of mine worked at a big one for awhile.

To my limited knowledge based on what he said, they do have pretty much a predetermined setlist of songs they draw from, depending on the station's genre.

A top 40 station like youre saying will play exactly that. They are pretty limited in scope. His was a classic rock station so they had more of a catalog to play from.

The replay factor is because most people only tune in for a little amount of time while driving. They wont hear the repeats at all but theres a good chance they will hear the top songs.

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Are these record companies paying radio stations a certain amount of money to play these songs so much?



He never spoke on this. Might be because it was a classic rock station and the songs have been around forever, but I imagine a ton of money exchanges hands with getting certain songs played
Posted by DoctorTechnical
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 2:24 pm to
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Anyone here ever worked at a Top 40 radio station?

Maybe.

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Do DJs play what they want to to play

No. Back when radio actually *had* DJs they would play what the boss told them to play. Say what the boss told them to say, as well.

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I have kids so they’re wanting to hear the current Top 40 music.

Here you answered your own question: People want to hear the hits. Audiences frequently turn over. Only so many minutes in an hour to play the hits.

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Are these record companies paying radio stations a certain amount of money to play these songs so much?


No no no. The two tend to not like each other, IMO.
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 2:25 pm to
I had a relative who DJed at a station years ago. Back then they would put tape on the record over the selections they didn't want played. The stuff now is digital and the stations only install the selections they allow to be played.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 2:26 pm to
20 years ago they used to have a 36-hour blood drive every summer at the Parker Ag Center.

One volunteer stayed the whole drive and heard the Titanic song 26 times.
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Posted by BunkieWrench
Katy
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 3:01 pm to
I did 30 years ago. An entire day's playlist was generated well ahead of time. At 6:30 in the morning, I could have told you what song would be playing at 8:15 that evening, give or take 2 minutes or so. It was a tightly run, formulaic ship. Not very glamorous.

Good think I was there for the morning show. Less music, more fun.
Posted by HerbEaverstinks
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 3:03 pm to
I've worked at several - several years ago.

Most, like 98 percent of them are all formated. One station, a top station in the large city's market, had an idiotic chart you had to follow. Couldn't play two women back to back, or men, or black artists, ect. They had everything color coded, too. Spent half your time just trying not to break the frickin' rules and find a song.

Then, there's the "power songs" you know the ones you play over and over again. These "hot" songs really get on your nerves because you hear them so much. That's why most DJ's make up their own lyrics, to keep their sanity.

Speaking of which, I was in the casino Friday night. Really good band playing. Lead singer slipped in some of his own lyrics quite often to the covers. He did "Take it Easy" by the Eagles and when he came to the lyric:

"Looking for a lover who won't blow my cover", he said:

"Lookin' for a lover who won't blow my brother" I was walking through the casino at the time and all the women just sort of had this look like, "Yeah, he got me. He's right."

I did work at several "free form" stations during my career. I started in college and it was "free form". Really cool stuff. Created a couple of free form stations, where the DJ's actually picked their music, where you could tell a story or have themes, and/or great segways, ect. I know of a few stations still around that do this and they are by far the best.

Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14788 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 3:07 pm to
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Are these record companies paying radio stations a certain amount of money to play these songs so much?


Assume this is a rhetorical question. Of course they get paid to play certain artists/songs. The bigger the station the more they make. KROQ and KLOS make a lot of money this way.
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12620 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 4:21 pm to
So a disc jockey has to play predetermined songs from a playlist ? Does management decide that a Huey Lewis song is going to be playing at 8:37 pm tonight ? Who gives management the orders ? Doesn’t that violate Payola laws ?

What about requests from listeners ?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39215 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

have kids so they’re wanting to hear the current Top 40 music. I’ve noticed that they really play the same 6-7 artists 99% of the time and the same 5-6 songs AT LEAST twice an hour.


Quick question... do you think this is a new strategy when it comes to radio?
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 4:29 pm to
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His was a classic rock station so they had more of a catalog to play from.

Yeah, like the same 50 songs.

Sirius XM radio for the win
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:16 pm to
Most stations now are programmed from NY or LA. Unless the station is independent and locally owned, someone far away is creating the playlist.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:18 pm to
Unfortunately not. The station I worked for ranked #41. So close.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:21 pm to
I did.

It was a while ago, but we had a company that generated a playlist for every hour of the day.
Posted by Tester1216
South Louisiana
Member since Jul 2018
22149 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:25 pm to
Briefly dated a guy who did and back then they pretty much rotated the same songs daily with the exception of special requests and even that was between certain hours.

Not sure where that list was generated. That was 30 years ago so I’m suspecting it was just the station.
This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 5:29 pm
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:27 pm to
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#41
I laughed.

Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:55 pm to
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Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6765 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 6:09 pm to
I did back In the day. Was kind of at the end of the metal era and unbeknownest to everyone at the station except for the manager, they were planning on switching over to EASY LISTENING! F that shite! But check this, before they announced, this trio breaks into the station and takes us hostage to get their tape played. One of the guys, Pip I think, banged the receptionist! Talk about Stockholm syndrome. Anyway, our machine couldn’t play cassets and when we tried to respool it, the machine ate the tape! The only persons that had the other copy was the dope lead singer’s gf who hated him at the moment and had tossed it from her car. We were playing on all the stations and I guess she heard us so she went get the tape (I think a dog had peed on it!) and brought it to the station. Anyway, during all of this, the third band mate with the crazy eyes finds the box of easy listening stuff and shows me/the rest of the crew. At that point we basically all sided with the band against the station manager and managed to get their sound over the air. We ended up getting a make shift stage set up outside the station and they played to a huge crowd of headbangers.


Ahh, good times.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 6:13 pm to
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At 6:30 in the morning, I could have told you what song would be playing at 8:15 that evening, give or take 2 minutes or so. It was a tightly run, formulaic ship. Not very glamorous.


I once had a pretty structured job in a town with one station that I liked. When I got off work, walked to my car, and hit the ignition key the same song would be playing, didn't change for the year I had the job.
This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 6:23 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 6:22 pm to
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Not sure where that list was generated. That was 30 years ago so I’m suspecting it was just the station.


In the 1970s every station of any significance in a city had a production manager that made the set list. They usually had a paper format "clock for every hour of the day that was circular like a clock, and divided up by what would be played at any given time of each hour. For example top of the hour to 3 minutes past was news, half hour to 3 minutes past was traffic and weather. Sometimes the music sections were labeled "A, B,C, etc" which meant that in a "A" timeslot the DJ could play his choice from a small selection of songs in a list labeled 'A", same for the "B"", "C", etc.
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