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re: Anyone have a kid that just doesn’t care about school?

Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:25 pm to
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YouTube
Honestly, you should never let him on YouTube, period.

No YouTube. No social media. No cell phone usage.

At least not until he is far older.

They are all designed to be addictive with the purpose of keeping eyes on the product.

Children should be kept as far away from it as possible.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Breauxsif
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:25 pm to
Keep mentioning what life would be like poor.
Posted by UncleLester
West of the Mississippi
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:26 pm to
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He’s 10 in the 4th grade.


At that age, the only thing that matters is his batting average and his WAR in Travel League. Also, how many World Series rings has he won in Gulf Shores?

All seriously, I would take him to Nicholls State (97% acceptance rate) + Northwestern State (96% acceptance rate) + Southeastern Louisiana (99% acceptance rate) for a full day each touring those campuses and explain that is where he is going to end up in 8 years if he keeps this up.

Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:26 pm to
Maybe brilliant is a strong word.

He’s not a dummy.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:26 pm to
I experienced it with someone else's child that I was very close to. Testing in 99% in elementary. But had no interest. He slid by until he got to high school. He was in college prep classes. At some point, you have to do homework and study. When that happened, he absolutely refused. He just shut down. Once he got behind, that was it.

Quit going to school. His mom made excuses constantly for him. Eventually, he dropped out in 11th grade. Eventually got his GED. But I watched a brilliant kid just not give a shite, and lay in bed not going to school.

One thing I will say, try to get your kid involved in something, anything, involving a group. Sports? Clubs? Something where he is accountable to others in the group.

This kid did nothing, belonged to nothing. Would start something and quit a day later. He never had to deal with being accountable to any peers. No one. So he just DGAF.

Hopefully this won't be your situation, and hope I didn't rain on your parade.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:28 pm to
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He doesn’t have to drive to be gifted. He won’t do the work. That’s the issue at this point.


He's 10, pretty common at that age.

Let him be who he is, he's still interested in things boys love to do, nothing wrong with that.

Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:29 pm to
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Hopefully this won't be your situation, and hope I didn't rain on your parade.


Def not. He’s in football and baseball. Very social at school. Always doing something outside running around. Always looking for that stimulation as long as it’s not schoolwork.
Posted by UncleLester
West of the Mississippi
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:29 pm to
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I experienced it with someone else's child that I was very close to.


Maybe in this example, he was acting out because he didn't like you dating his mom?
Posted by The Top G
Member since Jan 2023
139 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:30 pm to
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I experienced it with someone else's child that I was very close to. Testing in 99% in elementary. But had no interest. He slid by until he got to high school. He was in college prep classes. At some point, you have to do homework and study. When that happened, he absolutely refused. He just shut down. Once he got behind, that was it.

Quit going to school. His mom made excuses constantly for him. Eventually, he dropped out in 11th grade. Eventually got his GED. But I watched a brilliant kid just not give a shite, and lay in bed not going to school.


"Brilliant" people don't do shite like that. Brilliant people are certainly a lot of times lazy, but they don't not do well, because they're brilliant.

This is like people arguing that someone dropping out of ULM to work on a pipeline are the same as Steve Jobs dropping out of Stanford to invent the fricking desktop computer.


Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:31 pm to
Second, Flo's suggestion of getting him tested for the gifted/talented program in your district. He might just be bored with the content in class.

How is he with peers? What about his interactions with you all as family?

Do you have a history of depression in your family?
Posted by UncleLester
West of the Mississippi
Member since Aug 2008
8348 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:32 pm to
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Always looking for that stimulation as long as it’s not schoolwork.


Can you find an attractive High School Junior/Senior co-ed that smells nice to tutor him for an hour three days a week for some extra cash?

He clearly won't want to disappoint her during the days that she is not with him and will keep up his work.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:32 pm to
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Brilliant people are certainly a lot of times lazy, but they don't not do well,

Wrong.

I had plenty of above-average friends in Gifted who had shitty GPAs b/c they didn't care or do work. Then they annoyed all the hardworker lower tiers by getting higher ACT scores.

I met a kid in Honors College who went to LSMSA and was starting out semester 1 on like 3rd/4th year math. He dropped out Sophomore year IIRC, to deliver pizzas.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:33 pm to
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How is he with peers? What about his interactions with you all as family?



Very loving kid towards family. Very social and friendly kid with peers. Does great. He goes through the motions basically just to get to recess.


quote:

Do you have a history of depression in your family?


Nah. Not anything terrible.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57866 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:34 pm to
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Maybe brilliant is a strong word.

He’s not a dummy.
right, i have no doubt about that.

i think a lot people my age being told they were "so smart" or "brilliant" when they were in elementary school fricked them up long term. i think the only reason i didn't fall into that trap was i moved to a much bigger and more competitive school system in high school and quickly learned that i was only a bit above average. far from brilliant.
Posted by The Top G
Member since Jan 2023
139 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:35 pm to
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Wrong.

I had plenty of above-average friends in Gifted who had shitty GPAs b/c they didn't care or do work. Then they annoyed all the hardworker lower tiers by getting higher ACT scores.

I met a kid in Honors College who went to LSMSA and was starting out semester 1 on like 3rd/4th year math. He dropped out Sophomore year IIRC, to deliver pizzas.


Read his post dude, He said the kid laid in bed and didnt do anything. People that are brilliant need to be stimulated. They may do bad in school, but it's extremely obvious to tell they are on another level of intelligence.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281934 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:35 pm to
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Def not. He’s in football and baseball. Very social at school. Always doing something outside running around


He's doing fine. Let him have that kind of childhood.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
11840 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:35 pm to
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YouTube (we’re cutting that down starting immediately)


Everyone says this but nobody does it


It’s already too late

YouTube has DESTROYED his attention span
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:36 pm to
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Def not. He’s in football and baseball.

From my experience with my own, I don't think I would take away sports. That's something that they have to work at. And usually, when grades suffer, the school will take that away, so it's motivation to do school work. Take that away, and they just become idle.
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Very social at school. Always doing something outside running around.

This kid was too, lots of friends, hung with "popular" crowd I would say. Like to go out on weekends. Just refused to do any school work. Then, refused to go to class because he knew he was behind.
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Always looking for that stimulation as long as it’s not schoolwork.


The one I knew used online apps and video game for 90% of his stimulation. It should have been completely taken away. But the mother felt guilt because he had an absentee dad.

I know y'all have a 2 parent family, which I think will help. My biggest advice would be no matter what, you BOTH have to be 100% united on dealing with it. Even if you aren't, act like you are. Because if you aren't, he will divide and conquer, especially at that high school age.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:36 pm to
The OP son sounds like me. Most of the stuff being pushed in school has zero value on the streets. I respect this kid for figuring out the game at such a young age. He will get more value put of baseball and football.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:37 pm to
One of my nephews is 15 and doesn't give a shite about school. His 2 sisters win all sorts of academic awards too
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 1:37 pm
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