re: Anyone else’s wife hate how they dress?

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Look at his post history from the last couple of years. He’s gotten exponentially worse and more bitter.

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He used to be somewhat of a laidback type of guy. I wonder what happened.

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This is one of the dumbest things ever written here, and this board has produced some amazingly dumb shite.

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They take longer to engage and disengage than other fasteners (or no fastener at all), they tend to be more fragile (both in breaking and in coming unsewn), they can get caught on things, and they can cause puckering in the garment.

In the year 2021, they are primarily an aesthetic choice. Which, for the record, I choose quite frequently. But they make very little sense on casual garments, outside of attempting to make those garments appear less casual than they actually are.

If you disagree, please expound. You know, outside of just insulting me

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Where would you suggest looking for decent clothes that aren't so trendy you'll be laughed at in pictures 10 years from now? Is untuckit type stuff okay with a nice pair of jeans? I'm not talking suits. That stuff is easier.

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I could throw out suggestions, but they would be tremendously obvious and boring. To me, it's more important to just focus on building out a core of basic, classic essentials. For example, while I own a few pairs of jeans, I never wear them for the purpose of "fashion". I wear them to be what they were invented to be: a rugged, damned near tear proof work fabric. If I want to wear (relatively) casual pants somewhere, I wear chinos, which are essentially similar to jeans (in that the fabric they are made of is twill), but they use a finer (as opposed to coarser) knit, which makes them thinner/cooler and smoother in texture, both of which make them look more formal, while still being very casual.

As an example for shirts, anything with a tail should be tucked in, period. It just looks silly otherwise. So if you want to wear a button down shirt not tucked in, make sure the seam is even all the way around the bottom. It should also be cut a bit shorter than a shirt that you intend to tuck in.

And that's the rub. It's usually pretty easy, within reason, to dress down more formal wear. However, casual things made to look fancy look silly. I'll give an example:

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Assuming that link took you exactly where I want it to, the guy in the top left (grey shirt, blue pants) looks sharp. He looks casual, but it looks good. The guy in the video (on the right, second from the top) looks ok, but would likely look better if his sleeves were rolled up. The dissonance between the causal look and having the sleeves all the way down and buttoned looks a little silly. But still, no where near as silly as the other images with the shirts tucked in, which look absolutely absurd.

While it's mostly arbitrary and cultural, the west has fairly set ideas of what is formal and what isn't, even if the average person may not be able to put their finger on why. Cool tones tend to be more formal than warmer tones. Closed fasteners are more formal than open fasteners. Tucked in is more formal than untucked (which is the same basic idea re: fasteners).

Now, this post has gotten absurdly long, but I'll end with this: if every item you put on is purposeful, you'll likely be fine, as long as you have a basic understanding of aesthetic. Guys run into problems when their thought process starts *after* they put something on, and then they start trying to decide how to make it "dressier". That's a very dangerous game to play

ETA: I just realized that I didn't actually answer your untuckit question. They aren't really my jam, but they basically hit the important points I made about untucked shirts. The bottom hem should basically be even, and they should be shorter in length than a shirt you plan to tuck in. So yes, I would much rather someone wear that untucked than attempt to untuck a shirt that was meant to be tucked in.

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He used to be somewhat of a laidback type of guy. I wonder what happened.

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Great question

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Banana republic is a good brand? I thought they were mall clothes.

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It's a meh brand. You shouldn't buy anything actually "nice" or expensive from them, but oddly enough, they make fairly solid casual staples if you wade through their trendy bullshite. I have some solid navy crew neck tshirts from them, as well as a couple pairs of chinos, and I think at least one thin/light solid color sweater.

But I only buy those things from BR when they go on sale, because I find them overpriced, otherwise

Thanks

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80% of the clothing that I own is from LL Bean or Orvis. I don't really care if it's in style or not. My wife has never complained about how I dress. Occasionally she'll tell me she doesn't like a certain shirt I own or something like that

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I recalled that when I asked him.

I dress pretty basic. Jeans, shorts, slacks, button downs, polos, t-shirts. Some combination of those unless it's the once every 5 years I wear a suit

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Not sure if conducive to a healthy marriage

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I ask my wife due to this thread and she said I dress fine for a 43 yr old guy. Her words "the day I see you in some skinny jeans we'll have a talk"