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re: Anybody drive a truck or work vehicle with camera inside watching you?
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:02 pm to clarke
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:02 pm to clarke
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People are not meant to be watched all of the time, it's unnatural and doesn't contribute to a positive workplace environment. The mental well being of your employees should be more important than slightly reducing liability. It sends the message that you don't trust your employees, and certainly will translate to them having a more negative opinion of you. I doubt you'd want a camera in your office for 8 hours a day, treat your employees with the same level of respect.
How do you feel about police and body cameras?
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:04 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Im sure it was warranted somewhere down the line
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:08 pm to Byrdybyrd05
I've been at my job 10 years and if one was installed in my truck I'd go work somewhere else.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:08 pm to MasterJSchroeder
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Im sure it was warranted somewhere down the line
Usually right after Gordan runs a train on some company for a minor accident. These things cost a frick load of money. I've never heard of anyone doing it for funsies to spy on drivers.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:17 pm to billjamin
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Additionally, most of the decent ones are using AI to identify drivers without seatbelts, using their phone, etc. to flag any unsafe drivers.
This begs the question, where do we draw the line right now in how far we allow AI to seep into lives? These technologies are poorly understood even by the people who created them, and caution should be taken to avoid setting damaging precedents on a huge array of issues. Will people use this to justify wider implementation of AI to judge right from wrong (ie, wearing a seatbelt)? Just saying, it could become a slippery slope.
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:20 pm to Antib551
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dont know your business, and its easier said than done, but hire better employees. That incident is as much your fault as it is his. Great employees don't need or want nanny cams. Shows a lack of trust and respect on your part.
You must be a work from homer
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:22 pm to Cool Hand Luke
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The railroads installed them in all of the locomotives. Inward and outward facing cams. Plus GPS and real-time reporting of all systems. One of the reasons I got out. No point in putting us through all of the training when some jackass 1000 miles away is calling you on the radio to notify you of some procedural error you may or may not have made.
We’ve had them on drilling rigs for close to 20 years watching the rig operator and all the people working on the rig floor. They only pull the footage if something unplanned happens.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:22 pm to CHGAR
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Don't like what owner does, quit and start your own business.
Won't be anyone working anywhere if individual cameras filming you all day become the office norm.
There was talk of doing that at our small office/location by our parent company overseas. They learned very quickly that their cameras would be looking at a completely empty and employee-less office.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:25 pm to brass2mouth
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How do you feel about police and body cameras?
There are inherent differences, as they are recording interactions with the public, and that footage can contribute to whether or not someone will go to prison. The stakes are a lot higher than determining fault in a fender bender.
Additionally, policing in this country has been fundamentally flawed against people of all backgrounds -- completely independent of race and black people -- for a long time. Almost any lawyer will tell you that law enforcement is not to be trusted, and they still do sketchy shite all the time even with body cameras.
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:26 pm to Byrdybyrd05
I would pick my nose all day long.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:26 pm to ewilliams000
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I would pick my nose all day long
Hope your employers insurance covers Alzheimers
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:29 pm to ewilliams000
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I would pick my nose all day long.
You'd get flagged for distracted driving and excessive snacking if you're a booger eater. Prepare for online driving class enrollment.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:46 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:47 pm to Cool Hand Luke
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The railroads installed them in all of the locomotives. Inward and outward facing cams. Plus GPS and real-time reporting of all systems. One of the reasons I got out. No point in putting us through all of the training when some jackass 1000 miles away is calling you on the radio to notify you of some procedural error you may or may not have made.
The inward facing cams are solely to find a reason to fire someone for dubious reasons. "Oh, he took his safety glasses off for a second to remove his hoodie while the window was open! Investigation!" (I know a guy that got fired for this.)
Locomotives have had black boxes for decades that are randomly downloaded and always downloaded after an incident. They know exactly what the engineer was doing at all times. No need for a cam in your face watching your every move.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:53 pm to lostinbr
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:54 pm to BuckyCheese
We use them. We had a big problem with texting and driving and it pretty much ended it. Did we fire some people, yes, after 5-6 counselings and suspensions, but the vast majority just got a coaching. Reduced our accident rate a lot too. And Clark sounds like the whiney employee who runs to HR to complain about his rights being infringed upon. You don’t want to be watched, be the owner.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 4:09 pm to Boston911
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And Clark sounds like the whiney employee who runs to HR to complain about his rights being infringed upon. You don’t want to be watched, be the owner.
Just because you don't own the company doesn't mean you have to kiss your boss's fricking boots. Many employers are pieces of shite, and (to a degree) being a pain in their arse if they're treating you like shite can be justified. A society where corporations have unquestionable control over their workers is almost as bad as socialism. We are living in an economy that has changed drastically in the last ten years, and most people aren't paying any attention.
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 2/5/24 at 4:16 pm to clarke
I’ve gotten company drivers out of 5 accidents in 2023. I could prove that our drivers were attentive and the accident was not their fault. We’ve also been able to use videos as coaching on what could go wrong and how important it is to pay attention and drive safely.
I think many people would change their tunes if they had a fleet to manage and saw the checks that have to be written for vehicle insurance and how accountability and behavior tracking can minimize the amount paid.
Granted, with those systems there is always a chance for abuse by management towards employees but if you have a boss who has time to do all of that then you should probably be putting in resumes elsewhere.
ETA: employees also have the right to the footage if used against them for firing, etc. It is not always in the employers favor
I think many people would change their tunes if they had a fleet to manage and saw the checks that have to be written for vehicle insurance and how accountability and behavior tracking can minimize the amount paid.
Granted, with those systems there is always a chance for abuse by management towards employees but if you have a boss who has time to do all of that then you should probably be putting in resumes elsewhere.
ETA: employees also have the right to the footage if used against them for firing, etc. It is not always in the employers favor
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 2/5/24 at 4:18 pm to dcrews
quote:Worked in retail a while back and we had as much fun pranking the boss as he did watching us. It was supposedly to prevent custimer theft but it was fun to kick back with your feet on the desk and see if he would notice. He did not micro manage with it and no one ever got counseled for anything I am aware of. Employees were caught stealing at the warehouse once though.
Won't be anyone working anywhere if individual cameras filming you all day become the office norm.
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