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re: Any of you baws taken Hydroxychloroquine???

Posted on 8/14/20 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by Bow dude72
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Posted on 8/14/20 at 4:29 pm to
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Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/14/20 at 4:42 pm to
I take it daily as a matter of Course. Healthy as a horse.
Posted by BobMayonnaise
Memphis
Member since Feb 2009
1435 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 4:56 pm to
Even Trump’s COVID tsar says it doesn’t work.

LINK
Posted by RockAndRollDetective
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
4506 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 4:58 pm to
I got me some snake oil. It's working wonders!
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28643 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 5:19 pm to
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A study released by Henry Ford Health System on July 2’nd showed that 13% treated died,26.4 % not treated died.Look it up-I don’t know how to do links


You can't figure out how to post a link but you can read and understand medical trials?!?

The Henry Ford trial was an observational trial not a randomized control trial. Whatever you are reading, since it is clear you didn't read or understand the study, is failing to point out to you that trial had a serious confounder. The people in that study also received Decadron (dexamethasone) which is has been shown in randomized control studies to be effective.

The Ford study is similar to having a bacterial infection and the patients are given an antibiotic and a strawberry jelly sandwich. Then when the patients are cured of their bacterial infection concluding the strawberry jelly sandwich cures bacterial infections. The sandwich MAY have had a positive influence on the outcome either alone or synergistically with the antibiotic but you can't conclude that from the study.



Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
118099 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 5:27 pm to
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Take it if you get symptoms. If you don't get symptoms, you don't need it. It has a 65 year track record of safety. But don't let your symptoms progress. If you get symptomatic, get on it and kill the virus.



This is why no one should take advice from people on this board.

Go to your doctor and let him/her determine whether you should take it.

I mean, you can do anything you want an if you feel like you know best then god bless you, but I am just saying.. It would be better to let your doctor determine.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69991 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 5:37 pm to
you couldn’t resist could you.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4345 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 10:31 pm to
I understand that the Henry Ford study was a retrospective analysis,in fact in the press release they urged further studies-randomized controlled studies.But they felt pretty confident that the use of hydroxychloroquine helped save lives.Their retrospective analysis was peer reviewed and published.
I don’t think any reputable physician considers it to be a miracle cure but the available evidence seems to show that it is beneficial in some cases.It certainly can’t hurt,nobody is going to die from taking it as long as it is taken in normal doses.It certainly isn’t a dangerous drug as alleged by liberal hack-Dr.Sanjay Gupta.
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 8/14/20 at 10:34 pm to
I take tren, test, and primo, baw.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
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Posted on 8/14/20 at 10:39 pm to




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Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 10:51 pm to
[/quote]so how do you prove the efficacy of a drug that is assumed to only help early on when symptoms are mild?


Isn't that why they are the experts...
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28643 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:04 pm to
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I don’t think any reputable physician considers it to be a miracle cure but the available evidence seems to show that it is beneficial in some cases.It certainly can’t hurt,nobody is going to die from taking it as long as it is taken in normal doses


Again the Ford study had a confounder. The patients also received Dex. The positive results Ford found with Dex and HCQ are statistically similar to those of the randomized control studies of Dex alone.

One of the rare but known adverse drug events for HCQ is arrhythmia and COVID19 is known to cause or exacerbate arrhythmia on its own. Without more concrete proof HCQ is not going to become part of the gold standard intervention for COVID19.
Posted by tiggerfan02
HSV, AL
Member since May 2020
366 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:09 pm to
Budesonide maybe?
An inhaled steroid treatment.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28643 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:15 pm to
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Budesonide maybe?
An inhaled steroid treatment.


Most likely the reference was to Dex (dexamethasone).
Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:44 am to
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Hydroxychloroquine has absolutely no benefit. And the umc studies mirror multiple other studies. It doesn't work.

The remdesivir (sp?) Shows moderate help in reducing death. But has no effect once the patient is ventilated. (Almost nothing works once mechanical ventilation is necessary).


She is a bad expert. I know someone who had COVID. After 3 days they got the HCQ, AZ, and Zinc. Started felling better the next day. Take all 3 and it works. MAybe it is not very effective if you only take one of the three. This expert needs to do more research.
Also once one goes to vent, most medicine will not work. She is correct there.
This means take the 3 in the beginning. Some docs wait until it is too late, then prescribe HCQ, then they claim it does not work. Well, yeah. If you try to give anyone any kind of medicine after they die it won't work. Give it to them before they die or before they are near death.
Posted by greenhead11
Member since Feb 2012
949 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 4:29 am to
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Dr. Chris Thomas


The most evidence based and well read physician in BR. Got a bad rap from the general public on his interview on HCQ.

Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28643 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 5:16 am to
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She is a bad expert. I know someone who had COVID. After 3 days they got the HCQ, AZ, and Zinc. Started felling better the next day. Take all 3 and it works. MAybe it is not very effective if you only take one of the three. This expert needs to do more research.


This is the kind of statement that leaves me shaking my head. This is a disease that for 90% plus of people the symptoms are mild to non-existent and resolve with little to no intervention in a short period of time. The chances are very high that the person you know's symptoms would have resolved in the same time period without the HCQ, AZ, and Zn. If your acquaintance had taken a Tums, some glucosamine, and called upon the name of Marie Laveau and their symptoms subsided the next day would you be praising the efficacy of that cocktail?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28643 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 5:20 am to
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The most evidence based and well read physician in BR. Got a bad rap from the general public on his interview on HCQ.


He is the doctor other doctors want their friends and family treated by if they are in the ICU in BR. My wife calls him "brilliant" and when a surgeon bestows that on a non-surgeon it generally carries weight given the whole surgeon god complex.
Posted by GallatinTiger
KY
Member since Apr 2004
2233 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 3:05 pm to
Garbage. My wife's infectious disease doctor swears by the stuff. Prescribes it for her patients who have respiratory issues as a preventative with zinc. Wife takes it twice a week and zinc daily.
Posted by BilltheTiger
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2013
1067 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 10:31 pm to
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right

Yea, dipshit. My brother, my son, and many more. But believe what you want.
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