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Any Cartography experts on the OT? update pg3

Posted on 10/29/22 at 7:27 pm
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 7:27 pm
I found this framed map this morning for $8. I took it out the frame and realized it is a pressing, not a print.
In the last two photos, it’s hard to see, but the map is pushed through the back, raised like braille. This is telling me it is a pressing, not a print. The cartographer was John (Iohn) Senex. I cannot find a date on it. After I took it out of the frame, there is a pencil writing in the margins of 1719. John Senex died in 1740.

InB4 let me call a friend









This post was edited on 10/31/22 at 11:34 pm
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 7:30 pm to
Repro

LINK
This post was edited on 10/29/22 at 7:33 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 7:32 pm to
how pulpy is it

looks too white
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 7:37 pm to
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how pulpy is it looks too white


It’s pretty brown/tan
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 7:40 pm to
I’ll give you bout 3.50 for it
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 7:41 pm to
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Repro LINK


I wish I could see that sale price.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 7:46 pm to
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It’s pretty brown/tan
gross

Posted by real turf fan
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 7:50 pm to
The Perry-Castaneda Map Collection at the University of Texas might be able to tell you more.
Posted by Shaun176
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 7:57 pm to
Mid 20th century reproductions of that map are common. Paper looks too bright to be an original.

I have a Master's in Geography with a focus on colonial Louisiana and have handled many real, old maps.

I think there is a real original pressing of that map at Hill and the EBR main library. I think both collections are now scanned. You can compare the colors of the paper and ink.
This post was edited on 10/29/22 at 8:14 pm
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 7:57 pm to
I found these two. They are pressings as well, but we’re hand colored afterwards




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Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 7:58 pm to
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Reproductions of that map are common.


Yes, but are reproductions pressed from a plate or just prints?
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 8:10 pm to
It may or may not be real, but people ask me all the time how I have some knowledge in a lot of stuff. It’s because of things like this. When I buy some I have no idea of, I will research it, learning things I never knew before.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 8:12 pm to
I do enjoy the rabbit holes you create


I love maps and flags and books
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 8:31 pm to
I’ll give you $1000 for it right now. I’ll drive to pick it up.
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 8:32 pm to
quote]Mid 20th century reproductions of that map are common. Paper looks too bright to be an original. [/quote]

Nevermind.
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 8:35 pm to
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I’ll give you $1000 for it right now. I’ll drive to pick it up.


Bring it if serious
Posted by Sal Minio
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 8:44 pm to
Is it creased or folded?
Is that what you mean by pressed?
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 8:49 pm to
I dont have anything to add, but this link has zoomable scan of the map.

Interesting things like "Wandering Indians & Man-Eaters", courses of Bienville, Desoto, Moscoso etc. Does anyone know what Islet Maria is in the Mississippi?

Map LINK
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 8:55 pm to
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Is that what you mean by pressed?


Pressed means it was made from a plate, not printed.
Posted by McVick
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Posted on 10/29/22 at 8:57 pm to
Library of Congress page LINK

With the one at the Library of Congress, theirs is 48cm x 58cm. It also has hand coloring and came from the New General Atlas published in 1721. Some of the other onnes sold at auction appear to have different dimensions. Size and paper composition may be the best indicators of retail value.
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