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re: Anti-vaxxers on the rise: Typically rich and white
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:16 pm to LSUBoo
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:16 pm to LSUBoo
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Also surprising that you signed up on December 1 but waited until this thread to start posting.
You will find hundreds of people who join and never post if you read the membership list.
I wasn't really planning on posting but I had to respond at the insulting opposition to people who do not believe in vaccines.
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:16 pm to yoga girl
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Here is a discussion of 30 (yes, thirty) studies.
Expecting a meta-analysis... (which are crap too)...got something worse than a meta-analysis
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:19 pm to yoga girl
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You will find hundreds of people who join and never post if you read the membership list.
Yeah... but you posted, so they aren't really relevant at all to the conversation.
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I wasn't really planning on posting but I had to respond at the insulting opposition to people who do not believe in vaccines.
So, you weren't really planning on posting but then your other screen name was banned and you found something that triggered your inner crazy.
Got it.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:20 pm to yoga girl
Have you read all of those?
I know someone who has.
Basic summary from "Autism Speaks":
The focus on mercury has been debunked. Some of those studies (the ones that focus on vaccines) refer back to a 2004 study and the data from it. Not new data. NEW studies take their own data with better methods and techniques.
I know someone who has.
Basic summary from "Autism Speaks":
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Over the last five years, scientists have identified a number of rare gene changes, or mutations, associated with autism. A small number of these are sufficient to cause autism by themselves. Most cases of autism, however, appear to be caused by a combination of autism risk genes and environmental factors influencing early brain development.
In the presence of a genetic predisposition to autism, a number of nongenetic, or “environmental,” stresses appear to further increase a child’s risk. The clearest evidence of these autism risk factors involves events before and during birth. They include advanced parental age at time of conception (both mom and dad), maternal illness during pregnancy and certain difficulties during birth, particularly those involving periods of oxygen deprivation to the baby’s brain.
The focus on mercury has been debunked. Some of those studies (the ones that focus on vaccines) refer back to a 2004 study and the data from it. Not new data. NEW studies take their own data with better methods and techniques.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:21 pm to ell_13
quote:I have always been aware of kids who run around the house screaming and beating their heads against the wall. I just see it more now.
This is the causation for the increase in cases. That and people being more aware about their children's behavior.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:21 pm to GetCocky11
Ive heard of people doing this. A friend of mine use to live next to a family who had several kids and did not believe in vaccines. Not that this is related to not getting vaccines, but their kids were horrible. My friend had a birthday party for his kid & the anti-vaccine family was there. Their kids would do something they were not suppose to and one of the parents would tell them to stop & the kids wouldn't blink an eye.. After a few times of being told to stop, it was as if the parents got the point that they will not stop so they dont have to keep telling them to stop it (in other words the kids ran shite). Either way, the reality of the situation should be in the numbers right?Also, is it a fact that vaccines will cause things like autism or just a theory? Has anyone found out what causes someone to simple be stupid?
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:21 pm to gaetti15
Andrew Wakefield had a great scientific study confirming a link between autism and vaccines. But, politics got to it and the journal that published it "retracted" it.
The drug companies have a ton of power.
The drug companies have a ton of power.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:22 pm to LSUBoo
How would I have had another name banned? You don't know me.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:22 pm to yoga girl
Maybe it was just retired. 
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:23 pm to blueboy
quote:Well, then. That settles it, I suppose...
I have always been aware of kids who run around the house screaming and beating their heads against the wall. I just see it more now.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:23 pm to yoga girl
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Andrew Wakefield had a great scientific study confirming a link between autism and vaccines. But, politics got to it and the journal that published it "retracted" it.
it got retracted because it used flawed science
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:24 pm to yoga girl
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Andrew Wakefield had a great scientific study confirming a link between autism and vaccines. But, politics got to it and the journal that published it "retracted" it.
The drug companies have a ton of power
I'm glad you're here. Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:25 pm to gaetti15
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it got retracted because it used flawed science
No, it did not. Drug companies funded opposition, and it worked well obviously.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:25 pm to yoga girl
quote:You mean everyone (doctors mostly) who supported him pulled it after it was proven he did some pretty unethical/biased shite...
Andrew Wakefield had a great scientific study confirming a link between autism and vaccines. But, politics got to it and the journal that published it "retracted" it.
The drug companies have a ton of power.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:26 pm to ell_13
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You mean everyone (doctors mostly) who supported him pulled it after it was proven he did some pretty unethical/biased shite...
ding ding ding
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:26 pm to ell_13
quote:Not saying it settles anything, but it is the case.
Well, then. That settles it, I suppose...
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:26 pm to yoga girl
Whatever. Get your kids vaccinated or home school them. Your choice.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:29 pm to SabiDojo
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I'm glad you're here.
Me too. This thread has been entertaining.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:29 pm to RealityTiger
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Whatever. Get your kids vaccinated or home school them. Your choice.
I don't have any children. When I do, whether I vaccinate them will depend on what non-government controlled studies show.
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