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re: Another white police shoots a black male
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:38 am to meauxjeaux2
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:38 am to meauxjeaux2
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if you're that cop you wait that long?
because he's not a trigger happy meathead and doesn't wanna kill someone
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Is this what activists expect from our police force now?
no, it's what everyone should expect. Not necessarily waiting that long. but he made absolutely sure there was no other way out of the situation.
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That time frame from initial contact to shooting gave that obviously disturbed man plenty of time to pull a weapon on the cop.
ok... he also could have come blasting out of nowhere and rushed the cop before he saw him, or any other number of scenarios.
Cop assessed the situation and applied force when it was necessary. This guy should be the example, not the exception.
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Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:39 am to meauxjeaux2
Video description says Calvin has been released from the hospital and no charges are expected to be filed against him? What the frick 
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:40 am to meauxjeaux2
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Is this what activists expect from our police force now? That time frame from initial contact to shooting gave that obviously disturbed man plenty of time to pull a weapon on the cop
in short yes. he waited until he saw the man reach for a gun until he opened fire. you think he should have just started shooting because the guy didn't comply with his orders to show his hand?
before the man pulled the gun, the officer didn't know if he had a gun. why should he have not waited to shoot? it was obviously a very tense and dangerous situation, but that's what LEO signup for and are trained for.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:41 am to Masterag
quote:the man repeats several times"Are you ready" indicating that he was at any time going to pull his gun out and engage the officer.
no, it's what everyone should expect. Not necessarily waiting that long. but he made absolutely sure there was no other way out of the situation.
And you agree that he waited too long.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:41 am to Masterag
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This guy should be the example, not the exception.
I would say the unjustified shootings are the exception.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:42 am to meauxjeaux2
Calvin got what he wanted. The officer showed overwhelming restraint Calvin looked white to me.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 10:45 am
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:42 am to PhilipMarlowe
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in short yes. he waited until he saw the man reach for a gun until he opened fire. you think he should have just started shooting because the guy didn't comply with his orders to show his hand?
before the man pulled the gun, the officer didn't know if he had a gun. why should he have not waited to shoot? it was obviously a very tense and dangerous situation, but that's what LEO signup for and are trained for.
and you as well left out a very important part.
Why did neither of you mention the 5 times or so where Calvin says to the officer "Are you ready?"
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:43 am to PhilipMarlowe
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in short yes. he waited until he saw the man reach for a gun until he opened fire. you think he should have just started shooting because the guy didn't comply with his orders to show his hand?
before the man pulled the gun, the officer didn't know if he had a gun. why should he have not waited to shoot? it was obviously a very tense and dangerous situation, but that's what LEO signup for and are trained for.
I know this may come as a surprise, but bullets have been known to penetrate blue jeans. A recent study shows that a gun in the pocket can be discharged, actually penetrate pants, and then strike a target. Of course, peer review will be needed to strengthen this theory, but it's worth noting.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:43 am to meauxjeaux2
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the man repeats several times"Are you ready" indicating that he was at any time going to pull his gun out and engage the officer.
yeah, and the officer had a gun pointed at him, so if properly trained any attempt to draw the officer already has all the advantage he should need.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:48 am to Masterag
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has all the advantage
it appears as if that advantage paid off for the officer in this instance but are you willing to say that this advantage would be successful 100% of the time?
Because if i'm an officer that's the kind of odds i would need.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:51 am to meauxjeaux2
well you probably shouldn't be an officer, then.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:52 am to Masterag
Why do people like you expect every cop to be a Navy Seal with an IQ of 300?
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 10:53 am
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:55 am to upgrayedd
GOD bless that police officer. He will feel bad for a while but he did his job perfectly. Calvin needs to see a shrink or he won't be on this earth much longer.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:56 am to upgrayedd
quote:Why do you accept cops that have room temperature IQs that couldn't do anything else in life?
Why do people like you expect every cop to be a Navy Seal with an IQ of 300?
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:56 am to meauxjeaux2
dont even care
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:56 am to Masterag
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if properly trained any attempt to draw the officer already has all the advantage he should need.
i would think properly trained would mean not allowing the guy to draw
why in the frick should a cop take that chance that he will take out the suspect before he can shoot ...this isn't the wild westPosted on 3/9/17 at 11:00 am to meauxjeaux2
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it appears as if that advantage paid off for the officer in this instance but are you willing to say that this advantage would be successful 100% of the time?
Because if i'm an officer that's the kind of odds i would need.
The entire video is like a scene from the Wild West. It's not reasonable for officers to put themselves in such immediate danger. The circumstances matter.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 11:01 am to meauxjeaux2
If your approached by cops, you're an idiot if you don't follow their instructions right away. If you're innocent, it'll come out or they may let you go if it's a minor offense, which this appears to be at worst would result in a court summons, it was a general complaint no mention of deadly weapons by the complaintant. If you're guilty, "resisted arrest" changes how any future potentially innocent arrest/court date/traffic stop is percieved.
I don't care what race, comply with officers orders, it's your BEST option.
I don't care what race, comply with officers orders, it's your BEST option.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 11:27 am
Posted on 3/9/17 at 11:02 am to meauxjeaux2
What does the media do when body cams start to justify the use of force? Besides ignore the stories, I mean.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 11:02 am to meauxjeaux2
Suicide by cop. Case closed.
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