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re: Another pointless hazing death, in today's issue of "Greek life is stupid."
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:39 pm to lockthevaught
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:39 pm to lockthevaught
I've noticed alot of this . Maybe the northern frats are actually built on brotherhood ? The black frats seem very close
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:39 pm to OldmanBeasley
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I don’t think that’s accurate in Louisiana
LSU is looking for every single reason to kill fraternities. It's especially accurate there.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:39 pm to wutangfinancial
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Interesting but really bad take
Why?
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:40 pm to GEAUXmedic
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fully expect the resident fratstars to come defend their sacred rituals of hazing and being douchebags, but here we are. Victims aren't we all.
You sound like a victim of getting balled. Did you get balled or just never received a bid?
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:41 pm to lockthevaught
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Based on my experience...99% of your "Brothers" will never talk to you again after you graduate from college.
Most wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. I ain't worth it.
Sounds like you were an a-hole with no friends. That's a you problem
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:43 pm to GEAUXmedic
This is not an issue with Greek life as a whole. It’s typically the dork frats who drink kids to death. This article says he didn’t get into most so joined this one, and the max gruver case was a frat with a bunch of misfits.
This post was edited on 3/1/21 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Male societies are probably as old as time - and so is hazing. It brings people together.
Peter Pan syndrome is a real problem in the west.
We have young men, even men into their forties, who never grew up - never learned how to be a man.
They don't know how to take care of themselves, but they don't know how to take care of other people either, and they don't understand that they have responsibilities to the people around them.
They're islands of child like selfishness.
The man-child is a modern phenomenon that started to emerge in the 1940s. And it happened about the same time, that the rituals of manhood were killed off, and the societies that taught boys how to be men, were stamped out.
If you look back at what native tribes did in America, you can see a good example of these pathways worked.
When a boy reached a certain age, he was separated from his mother, and received the basic training needed to be a functioning adult member of the tribe, and then he went through a harrowing, a ceremony that tested his capacity to endure.
This ceremony had a spiritual element, may have included hallucegenic drugs, but most importantly, it was held by the men, and it marked the end of childhood, and his entrance into manhood.
Almost all of that is gone now in our culture.
The church is dead, the military thoroughly corrupted, institutions like the Boy Scouts, they're on their way out.
Fraternities still exist, and if you're lucky, provide you with hardship and bonding. But those opportunities are rarer and rarer now, as universities crack down on them.
Peter Pan syndrome is a real problem in the west.
We have young men, even men into their forties, who never grew up - never learned how to be a man.
They don't know how to take care of themselves, but they don't know how to take care of other people either, and they don't understand that they have responsibilities to the people around them.
They're islands of child like selfishness.
The man-child is a modern phenomenon that started to emerge in the 1940s. And it happened about the same time, that the rituals of manhood were killed off, and the societies that taught boys how to be men, were stamped out.
If you look back at what native tribes did in America, you can see a good example of these pathways worked.
When a boy reached a certain age, he was separated from his mother, and received the basic training needed to be a functioning adult member of the tribe, and then he went through a harrowing, a ceremony that tested his capacity to endure.
This ceremony had a spiritual element, may have included hallucegenic drugs, but most importantly, it was held by the men, and it marked the end of childhood, and his entrance into manhood.
Almost all of that is gone now in our culture.
The church is dead, the military thoroughly corrupted, institutions like the Boy Scouts, they're on their way out.
Fraternities still exist, and if you're lucky, provide you with hardship and bonding. But those opportunities are rarer and rarer now, as universities crack down on them.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:43 pm to upgrayedd
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LSU is looking for every single reason to kill fraternities. It's especially accurate there.
I agree with LSU being anti frat, but I don’t think taboo is the right word to describe drinking in Louisiana
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:44 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Yea, something had to happen to carry that kind of anger for fraternities
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:45 pm to GEAUXmedic
So did they single out just this one pledge to drink a handle? Seems odd. There should have been more doing so if that was the case and there would have been 1-2 alcohol poisonings as well.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:46 pm to squid_hunt
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Seems more likely due to drinking than hazing.
Absolutely. If the kid had just as much to drink and ended up in his dorm room, we’d never have heard about it.
This post was edited on 3/1/21 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:49 pm to OldmanBeasley
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I agree with LSU being anti frat, but I don’t think taboo is the right word to describe drinking in Louisiana
I'm saying it's taboo for underage frat kids to drink at LSU. There was a poster here that said he went to visit his old frat having a tailgate party at the parade grounds and all the underage kids were ducking out of sight and shooting hard liquor. He said those were the ones that were fricked up the most. If you take away the crushing grip you've got on these kids, they're less likely to go to extremes.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:49 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Delete
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 9:42 am
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:50 pm to upgrayedd
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There was a poster here that said he went to visit his old frat having a tailgate party at the parade grounds and all the underage kids were ducking out of sight and shooting hard liquor.
Them undercover MIP hounds are slick baw
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:50 pm to GEAUXmedic
I had a great time in my fraternity at South Carolina. I'm still tight with most of my pledge brothers today. That being said, these kinds of drinking games are idiotic. If you want to make a kid do air chairs while reciting the fraternity creed, or clean your room or be the designated driver for drunk and annoying sorority girls, I've got zero issue with that. That won't kill you. Drinking a handle of Jack Daniels in a few hours can kill you.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:50 pm to upgrayedd
Okay I take it back. Like I said it was interesting. That is a really good point.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:52 pm to upgrayedd
I agree with you, but taboo is not the right word
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:53 pm to OldmanBeasley
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I agree with you, but taboo is not the right word
It's taboo to them which makes it more dangerous.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:55 pm to upgrayedd
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It's taboo to them which makes it more dangerous.
No its not, I just told you why they do that. Undercover cops hand out MIPs and fraternity tailgates are easy targets. Pledges typically wear different clothes than the actives and if a pledge gets an MIP Greek Life will get involved. They aren't going to do anything if an active member gets one.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:56 pm to GEAUXmedic
I mean, if the entire Greek system disappeared tomorrow, would anyone actually miss it?
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