re: Another day, another murderous cop let off the hook

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It's not a computer script. The other officers clearly used better judgment. He was fired because of the reasons already outlined.

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Ah, there it is. So you're saying use of judgement is part of training, and he did not use proper judgement. How do those 2 facts not lead to the logical conclusion that he did not follow training?

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You're over-personalizing it. Settle down. I have not claimed some unwavering faith in the jury decision

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Nope, just using that "darn jury decision" as supporting evidence in your defense of this psychopath.

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I've been drawing a distinction between his obviously flawed personal judgment, the limitations of criminal liability under these circumstances, and the civil liability of the agency that trained him.

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You've been attempting to use technicalities to defend this murderous psychopath that decided to play navy seal and unnecessarily executed an unarmed, non-threatening civilian.

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If you think that kind of rational thinking reflects poorly on the messenger,

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Yes, it's so rational to pick and choose which statements from this psychopath you choose to believe as you defend him. And brave, don't forget brave.

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you're going to have a tough time getting through life. At some point, if your maturity level fails to develop beyond this, you should find the courage to seek professional help.

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I get it. You've chosen to defend a muderous psychopath. You're ashamed and embarrassed of that, as you should be. I don't get why you've chosen this line in the first place, or why you've continued to entrench yourself in supporting it. As I said, the fact that are continuing to do so says a lot about you.

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Pure and simple murder!

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nah. if it were "pure and simple murder" the jury wouldn't of let the cop off.

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the suspect is responsible for his own death. he was told several times "do not reach his hands back". but he did, 3 times! it looked as if he was reaching for something, the cop had no idea if he was armed or not! why should the cop chance his life cuz that idiot wouldn't follow directions?
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Here's my problem with that. Once the guy was laying flat on his belly with his arms and legs outstretched, there was nothing else that needed to be done. If you are going to detain him, put the cuffs on. If you are going to pat search him, do it. He is in complete compliance and the situation is secure. Go on to the next step. There is no need to have him assume three or four different compliant postures. One is all that is needed. Keeping the gymnastics going beyond that point has no practical use at all. The situation was secure and over almost immediately. No shooting required.

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I'm not a cop, and without being in his shoes, putting his life on the line... its unfair to say what he should or should not have done. I CAN say this: if it was me on the ground with an aggressive cop pointing a gun at me telling me not to reach back, I DAM sure would not reach back! Drunk, stoned, sober, whatever...

Okay, let's get you drunk and then see how well you play Simon Says.

You have three or four guns on him, maybe wait and see if he has anything first.

Obey or die..

That cop could get the death penalty and I'd be fine with it.

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the suspect is responsible for his own death. he was told several times "do not reach his hands back". but he did, 3 times! it looked as if he was reaching for something, the cop had no idea if he was armed or not! why should the cop chance his life cuz that idiot wouldn't follow directions?

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BULL. frickIN. shite. You gotta be gargling the Blue to say something that ridiculous. The guy died because the cops decided to force him to play some demented world class level game of Simon Sez with any error resulting in him getting lit up with .223 rounds at point blank range. I would guess 10% of the population would have made a mistake in that situation sober, probably 50% or more intoxicated. When (at least) 4 cops can't cuff a suspect when he is prostrate on the floor crying and begging not to be shot then THEY are the problem. What they did prior to him being shot was nothing short of sadistic and shooting and killing him was murder. It is time for federal action.

The jury system failed miserably here. There is no justifiable reason to shoot a man on his hands and knees crawling and begging to not be shot.

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its unfair to say what he should or should not have done. 

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Lol no. It's pretty fair and clear to say he shouldn't have done it and he's a murderous piece of shite. And you not seeing it that way makes you a fricking idiot. I actually don't blame the jury so much when you consider the brainwashing they go through from the judge and defense about how cops in those situations don't have to think rationally.

Well, I watched it. Not sure why.

That was sad.
He had a long time to cuff him. He could have gotten help cuffing him.

That made me sick.