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re: And the travel ball cliche kicks it up a notch...
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:11 pm to lsu777
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:11 pm to lsu777
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or is it that they dont like how much work it takes to stay on the field and to keep from getting passed up
This feels like the exact definition of burn out, and it happened to my SIL that got a D1 ride for softball.
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:12 pm to Krane
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You’re the TD travel ball expert
You put that target on yourself baw
there are others that know just as much as me just rather not fight with the idiots
ryno deals with the craziness of houston area, Louisiana travel ball is mild compared to that BS.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:12 pm to Cell of Awareness
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They are pushing suites that cost two thousand and up for ONE game. Some folks have lost their mind.
Genius idea and underpriced. There will be a waiting list since that’s only like $200 per kid.
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:12 pm to Cell of Awareness
My son is on an academy soccer team (one level above rec). We are lucky in that the tournaments are never more than 1 hr away. What sucks is the multiple practices a week. These are 8-9 year olds. It’s over kill.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:13 pm to Cell of Awareness
I just googled it but can you explain the divisions:
The free ones in NOLA in July say PAP, what does that mean?
Also what is the difference between Open, AA, and Allstar?
The free ones in NOLA in July say PAP, what does that mean?
Also what is the difference between Open, AA, and Allstar?
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:13 pm to Cell of Awareness
Vanity is one of our greatest industries. It goes hand in hand with gullibility.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:14 pm to LNCHBOX
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This feels like the exact definition of burn out, and it happened to my SIL that got a D1 ride for softball.
i mean i guess. but thats not burned out from playing too much etc....its just that the talent level has gotten better and better and kids are putting in more work and becoming more educated on how to train than ever before.
some kids arent willing to put in that type of work. thats not burnout from playing the game...thats...man this shite is hard work, i dont want to do it.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:15 pm to lsu777
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has nothing to do with social status
The amount of parents who will complain to coaches, principals, even school boards about their kid getting cut or not making the varsity or not playing enough is a nationwide problem in high school baseball right now and driving very good coaches out of the game.
I can’t tell you how many kids I’ve seen who have played “travel ball” (I loathe that term) their “whole lives” that get to high school and have no idea what a double cut is, zero feel for base running, can’t hold runners, play 100 games a year and have no clue what’s going on.
But parents will happily throw money at it for kids from the ages of 8-15 to be in a certain social circle until it all comes crashing down and then they blame someone else
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:16 pm to lsu777
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but thats not burned out from playing too much etc
How is it not?
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some kids arent willing to put in that type of work. thats not burnout from playing the game...thats...man this shite is hard work, i dont want to do it.
Bruh, you couldn't describe being burnt out better if you tried
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:18 pm to lsu777
Softball is crazy in my area. Throw a rock and you pass 5 travel teams.
We kick up in January/February. Practice 2-3 times a week. 12-15 tournaments in the spring. Furthest we have gone is 3 hours. Most are under an hour.
Fall is 6-7 tournaments.
Well under 1k for all fees.
We kick up in January/February. Practice 2-3 times a week. 12-15 tournaments in the spring. Furthest we have gone is 3 hours. Most are under an hour.
Fall is 6-7 tournaments.
Well under 1k for all fees.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:19 pm to El Segundo Guy
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Every single bit of their existence revolves around getting to Plano for practices.
What the frick is wrong with people?
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:19 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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I can’t tell you how many kids I’ve seen who have played “travel ball” (I loathe that term) there “whole lives” that get to high school and have no idea what a double cut is, zero feel for base running, can’t hold runners, play 100 games a year and have no clue what’s going on.
You think we knew all that as freshmen in the 90s?
I’m not disagreeing with your overall point, but I do think coaches are often just as much of bitches as the parents.
It doesn’t exactly make sense for a HS coach to cry about how bad travel ball coaching is if he can’t be bothered to coach the skills either.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:19 pm to Cell of Awareness
I was talking to a guy the other day who told me his 8 year old son was “selected” to try out for some all-star team…for $200!!! $200 just to try out!!! That was the day a fool & his money parted ways!
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:20 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
PAP means pay at the plate. each team pays the umpire before each game. this is 99% of tournaments
A or all star- is tournaments for rec ball level players. lowest level of travel ball. not very common
AA- this is lower level developmental teams. similar to most good rec all star teams. this is the largest division in the state and most teams never get above this level.
aaa- is teams that have developed for a while and are usually pretty good. these teams win 70 -80% of their games against AA competition. this is usually teams in that 12-35 or so range in the state. They have won enough in AA that the orgs have forced them into this division to make them play similar competition. This level can see wide variety of the quality of the team.
major- highest level. you have national level majors teams that travel all over the country and you have state level majors teams. In LA usually this consist of the top 12-15 teams in the state. Big difference between national level majors team like Banditos, SBA or TBT vs a state level majors team.
open- means any team can register and play in that division.
aa- only aa and all star teams can enter this
A or all star- is tournaments for rec ball level players. lowest level of travel ball. not very common
AA- this is lower level developmental teams. similar to most good rec all star teams. this is the largest division in the state and most teams never get above this level.
aaa- is teams that have developed for a while and are usually pretty good. these teams win 70 -80% of their games against AA competition. this is usually teams in that 12-35 or so range in the state. They have won enough in AA that the orgs have forced them into this division to make them play similar competition. This level can see wide variety of the quality of the team.
major- highest level. you have national level majors teams that travel all over the country and you have state level majors teams. In LA usually this consist of the top 12-15 teams in the state. Big difference between national level majors team like Banditos, SBA or TBT vs a state level majors team.
open- means any team can register and play in that division.
aa- only aa and all star teams can enter this
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:20 pm to lsu777
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the ot baws dont like travel ball because 99% didnt have the makings of a varsity athlete like uncle june would say
most are fat fricks who care way more about drinking at the hunting camp every weekend than spending time with their kids
90% of kids in high school don't have the makings of a varsity athlete. I venture a guess that has not changed much for the past 100 years. But being able to make money off of gullible people who have nothing better to do with their time than haul Braxton to practice and games and pay for tournaments and equipment and t-shirts and uniforms and concessions has seen a marked increase.
I want to spend quality time with my children away from other people to teach them the things I learned growing up in the woods, on the water, and on the farm. It made me a better person, and closer to my parents and siblings, than spending summer practicing and playing baseball. Most of the kids I grew up with that did that, rather than what I did, ended up less successful than the ones that went down the path that I traveled.
We did play fall and spring sports, but summer time was for family.
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:21 pm to Earnest_P
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It doesn’t exactly make sense for a HS coach to cry about how bad travel ball coaching is if he can’t be bothered to coach the skills either.
I agree but that’s not my point. I’m talking about how many people spend all of this money but don’t really get anything out of it from a baseball standpoint but get lots from social standing.
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:21 pm to DownSouthJukin
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99% of kids in high school don't have the makings of a varsity athlete.
Who are you, Uncle Junior?
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:22 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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The amount of parents who will complain to coaches, principals, even school boards about their kid getting cut or not making the varsity or not playing enough is a nationwide problem in high school baseball right now and driving very good coaches out of the game.
I can’t tell you how many kids I’ve seen who have played “travel ball” (I loathe that term) their “whole lives” that get to high school and have no idea what a double cut is, zero feel for base running, can’t hold runners, play 100 games a year and have no clue what’s going on.
But parents will happily throw money at it for kids from the ages of 8-15 to be in a certain social circle until it all comes crashing down and then they blame someone else
this we can 100% agree upon. its insane
this is where travel ball gets dumb. got kids that played AA their whole life and think because they played travel ball they should just make the team
or a kid that played on a AAA team or even majors and was by far the worst player and hardly played and his parents think he should automatically be on HS team. its dumb AF.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:23 pm to wackatimesthree
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99% of kids in high school don't have the makings of a varsity athlete.
Who are you, Uncle Junior?
Meant to say 90%. Edited.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:23 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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The amount of parents who will complain to coaches, principals, even school boards about their kid getting cut or not making the varsity or not playing enough is a nationwide problem in high school baseball right now and driving very good coaches out of the game.
"high school baseball" You can change this to any sport. I coach travel soccer and it is just as bad.
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