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Ancient Barbarians Were High on Drugs - Tiny Spoons Found
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:56 am
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:56 am
Nazis on meth and now this. No wonder those Barbarian tribes were so ruthless.
https://www.popsci.com/science/barbarian-drug-use/
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Roman-era Barbarians snorted stimulants in battle, tiny spoons suggest
Over 200 small tools found across Europe hint at previously unknown drug use in Germanic tribes.
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“These spoons were part of a warrior’s standard kit, enabling them to measure and consume stimulants in the heat of battle,” the authors write in their paper. The team also believes that, if their theory is true, then it’s unlikely Germanic peoples reserved drug use for only during times of war.
https://www.popsci.com/science/barbarian-drug-use/
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Archeologists have recovered over 200 small, spoonlike objects next to warfare-related artifacts at Roman era dig sites across Europe. And while the accessories probably didn’t directly help defend against enemy combatants, the researchers have a theory about their purpose: According to the team, “barbarian” warriors across central Europe may have battled the Roman Empire with a little help from stimulants.
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The relics are mostly dated between 0-150 CE, and were made from wood or antler. Their handles generally measure between 40 and 70 mm long (roughly 1.57-2.75 inches), and are topped by a flat disk or shallow bowl 10-20 mm (0.39-0.78 inches) in diameter. Many of the accessories also included holes drilled into the handles that allowed users to strap them to their belts.
As an accompanying announcement explains, archeologists have long known that Greek and Roman cultures widely used narcotics such as opium, but until now, many experts believed drug use in Germanic peoples almost exclusively extended only to alcohol. The number of spoons and the large area in which they were found, however, point to a potential need to revise the historical record.
After documenting each artifact, the researchers then surveyed the variety of stimulants that could have been available to barbarian tribes at the time. The list, while not exhaustive, is large enough to give Germanic warriors plenty of options—belladonna, multiple fungi varieties, poppy, hops, hemp, and henbane, among others. While some of these could be consumed after dissolving them in alcohol, many could be inhaled in dry, powdered form. Because of this, researchers theorize barbarians used their belt accessories to precisely portion out their stimulant of choice so as to avoid overdosing, either before or during combat.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:58 am to Shexter
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As an accompanying announcement explains, archeologists have long known that Greek and Roman cultures widely used narcotics such as opium, but until now, many experts believed drug use in Germanic peoples almost exclusively extended only to alcohol.
This is one of those no shite things that nerds don’t think happened until they find spoons
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:04 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Pretty sure the Viking warriors would be high AF when going into their battles
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:08 am to Shexter
Duh. Everyone has known the berserkers were high AF going into war.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:08 am to Shexter
quote:I'm not sure about the stimulant properties of those. I would need a nap before the battle.
belladonna, multiple fungi varieties, poppy, hops, hemp
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:08 am to Shexter
The keys they used back in the day were bigger than those keys on the Legend of Zelda.
Overdoses prompted the use of these tiny coke spoons.
Overdoses prompted the use of these tiny coke spoons.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:16 am to dstone12
Maybe they just had really small hands. 
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:18 am to Shexter
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Archeologists have recovered over 200 small, spoonlike objects next to warfare-related artifacts at Roman era dig sites across Europe. And while the accessories probably didn’t directly help defend against enemy combatants, the researchers have a theory about their purpose: According to the team, “barbarian” warriors across central Europe may have battled the Roman Empire with a little help from stimulants.
So no real proof, just a theory.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:27 am to Shexter
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archeologists have long known that Greek and Roman cultures widely used narcotics such as opium, but until now, many experts believed drug use in Germanic peoples almost exclusively extended only to alcohol.
Yeah, because when I think of a battle enhancement opium is the first thing that comes to mind.
Find the substance, or the reference to it a least, first.
Spoons don't impress me and their research seems sloppy. They are imposing an idea on something before they have sufficient evidence
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Because of this, researchers theorize barbarians used their belt accessories to precisely portion out their stimulant of choice so as to avoid overdosing, either before or during combat.
So what is this incredibly potent and available drug in Germany that obviously grew freely (and then it would stand that it would still grow freely and be documented throughout history) whose dosage would have to be so precise that a little more than a tiny spoonful would cause overdose?
Where is it?
Are they saying they snorted some sort of powder mid battle?
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 11:33 am
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:31 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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but until now, many experts believed drug use in Germanic peoples almost exclusively extended only to alcohol.
Not very informed for being experts. This was discussed back when I was in college many a year ago.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:34 am to fr33manator
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Spoons don't impress me and their research seems sloppy. They are imposing an idea on something before they have sufficient evidence
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:35 am to MikeD
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Pretty sure the Viking warriors would be high AF when going into their battles
Berserkers.
Off course they were out of their minds on speed. They fought in a "rage-like trance".
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:02 pm to SoDakHawk
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Berserkers.
Off course they were out of their minds on speed. They fought in a "rage-like trance".
I'll bet some were just out of their mind.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:08 pm to dstone12
Did they find any wood shaped credit cards?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:45 pm to fr33manator
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Yeah, because when I think of a battle enhancement opium is the first thing that comes to mind.
If I was going into a old school battle a narcotic pain reliever would be high on my want list
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:54 pm to PaperTiger
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wood shaped credit cards
What does "wood shaped" even mean?
I think they'd be looking for credit card shaped wood.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 1:30 pm to Tr33fiddy
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If I was going into a old school battle a narcotic pain reliever would be high on my want list
First on the list would be a spot in the back of the ranks
Posted on 12/9/24 at 1:31 pm to Shexter
Thats true
Got that backwards
Got that backwards
Posted on 12/9/24 at 4:46 pm to Tr33fiddy
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If I was going into a old school battle a narcotic pain reliever would be high on my want list
I would imagine it all your senses in which point where any benefit would be outweigh by the high probability you're getting stuck
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