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Ancient Barbarians Were High on Drugs - Tiny Spoons Found

Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:56 am
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
20638 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:56 am
Nazis on meth and now this. No wonder those Barbarian tribes were so ruthless.

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Roman-era Barbarians snorted stimulants in battle, tiny spoons suggest
Over 200 small tools found across Europe hint at previously unknown drug use in Germanic tribes.

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“These spoons were part of a warrior’s standard kit, enabling them to measure and consume stimulants in the heat of battle,” the authors write in their paper. The team also believes that, if their theory is true, then it’s unlikely Germanic peoples reserved drug use for only during times of war.


https://www.popsci.com/science/barbarian-drug-use/



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Archeologists have recovered over 200 small, spoonlike objects next to warfare-related artifacts at Roman era dig sites across Europe. And while the accessories probably didn’t directly help defend against enemy combatants, the researchers have a theory about their purpose: According to the team, “barbarian” warriors across central Europe may have battled the Roman Empire with a little help from stimulants.




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The relics are mostly dated between 0-150 CE, and were made from wood or antler. Their handles generally measure between 40 and 70 mm long (roughly 1.57-2.75 inches), and are topped by a flat disk or shallow bowl 10-20 mm (0.39-0.78 inches) in diameter. Many of the accessories also included holes drilled into the handles that allowed users to strap them to their belts.

As an accompanying announcement explains, archeologists have long known that Greek and Roman cultures widely used narcotics such as opium, but until now, many experts believed drug use in Germanic peoples almost exclusively extended only to alcohol. The number of spoons and the large area in which they were found, however, point to a potential need to revise the historical record.

After documenting each artifact, the researchers then surveyed the variety of stimulants that could have been available to barbarian tribes at the time. The list, while not exhaustive, is large enough to give Germanic warriors plenty of options—belladonna, multiple fungi varieties, poppy, hops, hemp, and henbane, among others. While some of these could be consumed after dissolving them in alcohol, many could be inhaled in dry, powdered form. Because of this, researchers theorize barbarians used their belt accessories to precisely portion out their stimulant of choice so as to avoid overdosing, either before or during combat.


Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:58 am to
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As an accompanying announcement explains, archeologists have long known that Greek and Roman cultures widely used narcotics such as opium, but until now, many experts believed drug use in Germanic peoples almost exclusively extended only to alcohol.


This is one of those no shite things that nerds don’t think happened until they find spoons
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8414 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:04 am to
Pretty sure the Viking warriors would be high AF when going into their battles
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
4598 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:08 am to
Duh. Everyone has known the berserkers were high AF going into war.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
66872 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:08 am to
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belladonna, multiple fungi varieties, poppy, hops, hemp
I'm not sure about the stimulant properties of those. I would need a nap before the battle.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
40264 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:08 am to
The keys they used back in the day were bigger than those keys on the Legend of Zelda.

Overdoses prompted the use of these tiny coke spoons.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156451 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:16 am to
Maybe they just had really small hands.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298317 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:18 am to
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Archeologists have recovered over 200 small, spoonlike objects next to warfare-related artifacts at Roman era dig sites across Europe. And while the accessories probably didn’t directly help defend against enemy combatants, the researchers have a theory about their purpose: According to the team, “barbarian” warriors across central Europe may have battled the Roman Empire with a little help from stimulants.


So no real proof, just a theory.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134537 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:27 am to
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archeologists have long known that Greek and Roman cultures widely used narcotics such as opium, but until now, many experts believed drug use in Germanic peoples almost exclusively extended only to alcohol.


Yeah, because when I think of a battle enhancement opium is the first thing that comes to mind.


Find the substance, or the reference to it a least, first.

Spoons don't impress me and their research seems sloppy. They are imposing an idea on something before they have sufficient evidence


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Because of this, researchers theorize barbarians used their belt accessories to precisely portion out their stimulant of choice so as to avoid overdosing, either before or during combat.



So what is this incredibly potent and available drug in Germany that obviously grew freely (and then it would stand that it would still grow freely and be documented throughout history) whose dosage would have to be so precise that a little more than a tiny spoonful would cause overdose?



Where is it?


Are they saying they snorted some sort of powder mid battle?
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 11:33 am
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31334 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:31 am to
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but until now, many experts believed drug use in Germanic peoples almost exclusively extended only to alcohol.


Not very informed for being experts. This was discussed back when I was in college many a year ago.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298317 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:34 am to
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Spoons don't impress me and their research seems sloppy. They are imposing an idea on something before they have sufficient evidence
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
10615 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:35 am to
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Pretty sure the Viking warriors would be high AF when going into their battles


Berserkers.

Off course they were out of their minds on speed. They fought in a "rage-like trance".
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
46978 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:02 pm to
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Berserkers.

Off course they were out of their minds on speed. They fought in a "rage-like trance".



I'll bet some were just out of their mind.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26610 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:08 pm to
Did they find any wood shaped credit cards?
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Hog Jaw, Arkansas (it exists)
Member since Aug 2023
1971 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:45 pm to
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Yeah, because when I think of a battle enhancement opium is the first thing that comes to mind.


If I was going into a old school battle a narcotic pain reliever would be high on my want list
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
20638 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:54 pm to
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wood shaped credit cards


What does "wood shaped" even mean?

I think they'd be looking for credit card shaped wood.

Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
Member since Dec 2016
6004 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 1:30 pm to
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If I was going into a old school battle a narcotic pain reliever would be high on my want list

First on the list would be a spot in the back of the ranks
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26610 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 1:31 pm to
Thats true

Got that backwards
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134537 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 4:46 pm to
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If I was going into a old school battle a narcotic pain reliever would be high on my want list



I would imagine it all your senses in which point where any benefit would be outweigh by the high probability you're getting stuck
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