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re: Amazon Plans to Replace More Than Half a Million Jobs With Robots
Posted on 10/21/25 at 4:59 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 10/21/25 at 4:59 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Might wanna sit this one out baw.
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Amazon would never sign a deal that prevented them from replacing their workers.
This is factually incorrect. They’ve entered agreements where a certain level of human labor is required
And there’s an incentive clawback should they not meet the minimum requirements
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 5:01 pm
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 5:01 pm to RLDSC FAN
this doesn't seem good longterm for the country
Posted on 10/21/25 at 5:02 pm to CarRamrod
Amazon is paying up to $200k per year for robotics engineers
Posted on 10/21/25 at 5:03 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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This is factually incorrect. They’ve entered agreements where a certain level of human labor is required
You've got to follow the thread baw. The context of the discussion is very clearly referring to retail distribution centers.
Regardless, the qualified data center program does not bar amazon from replacing the miniscule amount of required workers to benefit from the program in perpetuity. After 10 or 15 years, they can go ahead and can the 20 workers they had to maintain.
Don't be a LNCH bro. It's rough enough having one of those.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 5:04 pm to RLDSC FAN
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That would save about 30 cents on each item that Amazon picks, packs and delivers to customers.
Oh frick off.
1. They will save more than that.
2. They won’t decrease any of their prices to consumers or businesses and will still increase them.
3. Would be a real shame if those robots kept experiencing problems and the techs they bring in to fix them just can’t seem to fix the issue.
4. Jeff Bezos looks like a small queer version of Mr. Clean.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 5:50 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Regardless, the qualified data center program does not bar amazon from replacing the miniscule amount of required workers to benefit from the program in perpetuity. After 10 or 15 years, they can go ahead and can the 20 workers they had to maintain.
If they wish to exit the program. They can reapply for the program in perpetuity. I mean, if the criteria is that if they choose to leave programs, they don’t enter programs where there aren’t labor requirements, then that’s technically true, but that’s not really a coherent argument
Posted on 10/21/25 at 6:17 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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They can reapply for the program in perpetuity.
But why? The main incentive they get is a sales tax credit that will be largely realized during initial buildout. Sure they can keep getting the break on maintenance/upkeep, but that’s a rounding error compared to the initial tax incentive they will receive. I’d be interested to see the numbers comparing the tax break on maintenance/replacements vs salaries and benefits for 20 employees for 10-15 years.
Again, none of this is pertinent to the actual discussion. The OP, and the discussion that was being had before you brought up data centers was about retail distribution hubs which are currently very human labor intensive.
You can drop the lnch schtick. It’s ok.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 10/21/25 at 6:22 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Again, none of this is pertinent to the actual discussion.
This is what you said
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Amazon would never sign a deal that prevented them from replacing their workers.
They sign deals all over the country, some of which I know for a fact are up to 30 years in length and are still being pursued, that are contrary to what you said.
If you would have said that Amazon.com Services LLC that operates most of their distribution centers wouldn’t enter into those agreements, well, I’d still disagree with you because it’s not correct, but it would possibly have more merit than what you said.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 10/21/25 at 6:25 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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If you would have said that Amazon.com Services LLC
That’s the entity OP and the discussion is about so I guess I’m in luck.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 10/21/25 at 6:29 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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That’s the entity OP and the discussion is about so I guess I’m in luck.
You of all people know mean what you say and say what you mean. You didn’t, it’s ok.
And by the way, this entity does pursue deals with minimum labor requirements. Doesn’t mean they won’t terminate them at some point, but they absolutely do enter agreements where they “can’t” eliminate labor, directly contrary to what you claimed
Posted on 10/21/25 at 6:38 pm to The Torch
But families need productive incomes to buy cars, shop at Costco, and prevent social unrest
Posted on 10/21/25 at 6:39 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You of all people know mean what you say and say what you mean. You didn’t, it’s ok.
This is one of the weakest arguments I’ve seen from you. You are supposed to be better than this.
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but they absolutely do enter agreements where they “can’t” eliminate labor
That’s by and large not what I’m seeing in my deals. The labor requirements sunset after a relatively short period of time. The benefits granted by whatever government entity are largely realized during the first few years (or even shorter) so there is little, if any, incentive for Amazon to re-up after the initial term of the agreement ends.
Still not sure why you brought up data centers though.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 6:42 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Still not sure why you brought up data centers though.
Because they’re owned and operated by Amazon and almost all of them have agreements with a minimum labor requirement
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:57 pm to Penrod
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but eventually it will go to the consumers (
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:19 pm to RLDSC FAN
Yay. More expensive landfill fodder.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:23 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Amazon Plans to Replace More Than Half a Million Jobs With Robots
I don’t blame them. Can you imagine being in HR for an Amazon warehouse…good god!
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:52 am to wadewilson
Man, you are laughing at what is as close to a provable fact as you can get in economic predictions. If you were correct that technological innovations result in long term increases in profit margin then our quality of life would not have improved over the last century and a half as technology improved. On the other hand, companies’ profit margins would have steadily increased. Instead we find that companies’ profit margins are similar to what they were a hundred years ago, with today’s average of 12% a little higher than the 7% of a hundred years ago. Do you think we’ve only had 5% of efficiency gains during that time? You are clearly wrong here.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 8:55 am
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:27 am to Penrod
What happens to the average guy that depends on that paycheck?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:48 am to wadewilson
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What happens to the average guy that depends on that paycheck?
The same thing that happened to the average guy who made his living manufacturing buggy whips or picking cotton. The argument that we will be worse because innovation is eliminating jobs has been made dozens of times in the past 150 years since the industrial revolution began. People who have taken that position have lost every single argument.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:56 am to RLDSC FAN
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