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re: Amazon planning to capitalize on Louisiana solar entergy with local solars farms

Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:05 pm to
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36765 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:05 pm to
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We need to step up our renewable energy resources as a state. It would only make us more resilient .



How? It’s not as windy as the plains, not as sunny as the desert. Where’s our competitive advantage?

How much is it going to cost to replace all that shite every 2-3 years when it gets damaged by hurricanes?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:06 pm to
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hydro


Where in LA can we do this?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36765 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:07 pm to
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Where in LA can we do this?


It’s actually the only one that’s slightly feasible but it would require major changes to the Mississippi that would impact shipping
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12297 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:08 pm to
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Solar is completely stupid and makes no sense from any technical aspect. The sun doesn’t always shine, and having frickhuge batteries isn’t practical.

Nuclear or gtfo


Nuclear is the answer but solar has its applications.

Hydro destroys the environment, I don't know how you save the earth by destroying vast amount of habitat and causing species to go extinct.

Look, we are really good at cleaning up emissions from cars. CO2 isn't a pollutant, it is a necessary part of our atmosphere. CO2 levels fluctuated way before many started contributing to the fluctuations and will fluctuate far after man is long gone. I am all for clean ICE engines, they are fun and get better and better every year the government doesn't slap some new regulation on them.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18092 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:08 pm to
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Come from solar farms in this state. We’ll be stuck paying for the clean up of these defunct farms after the parent companies abandon Them. That will happen as soon as the government quits subsidizing solar

The leases basically mirror oil and gas, but for some reason I never see this same logic applied to leaking pump jacks that are abandoned and pollute ground water all over the country. Shitty operators exist in all industries.

And regarding the subsidy, there aren’t really any long term subsidies available today. It’s all up front for solar so them “running out” isn’t how it works.
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 9:36 pm
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
34017 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:08 pm to
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Where in LA can we do this?

He’s prob considering the Mississippi as an excellent idea but he’s failing to realize that the silt deposits would plug that bitch with the quickness.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12297 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:11 pm to
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Batteries don't have to be huge forever. Computer hardware like 30 years ago took up a whole room and had less storage than the phone I'm posting from.


Did you find a way to make energy without moving electrons? You can't shrink batteries the same way they shrunk circuits , it just isn't feasible... unless we come up with home sized nuclear batteries...
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122197 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:11 pm to
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Again, frick off. These solar farms create
1-2 permanent jobs after the initial construction


I know very little about solar farms, but this is what I was thinking. Once they are put up, how many people do you need to operate the farms?

Do companies get some type of government money for creating solar farms?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:11 pm to
You can get hydro power from 1.5 knots of current?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36765 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:11 pm to
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He’s prob considering the Mississippi as an excellent idea but he’s failing to realize that the silt deposits would plug that bitch with the quickness.



It could be abated, but how much money would someone be willing to throw at it to do it when there’s a much more cost effective option available?

God gave us dinosaurs and then killed them so we could drive Hellcats and f-2fiddys
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8665 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:13 pm to
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I anticipate some downvotes on this post . I just want the best for the people of Louisiana.


Maybe, ask the people in Louisiana that already live next to these so-called solar farms. These billion dollar companies don’t give a shite about you, much less Louisiana. For humanity’s sake, I hope this is just some BS troll post, if not, it just goes to show everyone how far this country has fallen in a span of 40 years.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36765 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:14 pm to
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You can get hydro power from 1.5 knots of current?



Yes, but again you run into the cost effectiveness problems that are inherent in all renewable energy projects. It wouldn’t make sense

Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38055 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:15 pm to
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how many people do you need to operate the farms?



The proposed solar farms in WBR create one (possibly 2) permanent jobs. Think about that. They’re tiring up the land for 20+ years just with the lease. For ONE permanent job. Where is the economic benefit for the parish, let alone the tax payers?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:15 pm to
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Yes its great to have oil and gas resources available in times of need. We should be saving those resources for a rainy day.


Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18092 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:17 pm to
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I know very little about solar farms, but this is what I was thinking. Once they are put up, how many people do you need to operate the farms?

You’re going to see 1-2 local FTE per 50MW or so depending on the owner. Then there’s probably another 4-5 people that are remote monitoring. Add a couple contractors to come in and do drone diagnostics, cleaning, etc.
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Do companies get some type of government money for creating solar farms?

The ITC, which reigns supreme on the subsidy hierarchy allows for a 30% FMV tax credit the year the asset is put in service. The reality is none of these companies have a tax load to offset so that’s sold to banks or investors at a discount for cheap operating capital. It’s a little more complex than that but that’s the quick and dirty version. Now the IRA gives the option for a production tax credit (similar to wind, and what nuclear is now eligible for) but that hasn’t started yet and would replace the ITC if elected and will have a long term cash flow of tax rebates.
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 9:18 pm
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38055 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:18 pm to
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Maybe, ask the people in Louisiana that already live next to these so-called solar farms. These billion dollar companies don’t give a shite about you, much less Louisiana. For humanity’s sake, I hope this is just some BS troll post, if not, it just goes to show everyone how far this country has fallen in a span of 40 years.



He doesn’t give a shite about Louisiana or
It’s citizens. He’s an environmental activist or affiliated with the solar farms in some manner. Or a troll.

Either way, frick him. He’s full of shite.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38055 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:20 pm to
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We should be saving those resources for a rainy day. And build up our hydro, solar and off shore wind RENEWABLE entergy resources


You pretty much out yourself right here as a shill for the alternative energy industry.
Posted by JKLazurus
Member since Jun 2016
261 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:24 pm to
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Batteries don't have to be huge forever. Computer hardware like 30 years ago took up a whole room and had less storage than the phone I'm posting from.


Car battery weighed 1600lbs in 1890…it only took 130 yrs to cut the weight in half.
Posted by LazloHollyfeld
Steam Tunnel at UNC-G
Member since Apr 2009
2108 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:37 pm to
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The leases basically mirror oil and gas, but for some reason I never see this same logic applied to leaking pump jacks that are abandoned and pollute ground water all over the country. Shitty operators exist in all industries.


Well site is like 5 acres of surface - solar farms are thousands of acres of surface for less energy production.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68512 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:42 pm to
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Batteries don't have to be huge forever


Current lithium batteries are about as good as they’re going to get. They can make small incremental increases, but the technology requires a certain amount of physical space to generate and store power.
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