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re: Amazon developer seeks $35.4 million property tax abatement from BR for Cortana facility

Posted on 2/10/21 at 1:07 am to
Posted by TchoupitoulasTiger
NOLA
Member since May 2011
1328 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 1:07 am to
There’s gonna be 30x robots than people. What happened to the XOM tax credit deal?
Anyway here’s a video of a Amazon fulfillment center with robots. Some FC’s are manual, others are robots. Here is a cool video of a FC with robots.
Amazon FC w/ Robots (YouTube)
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 6:39 am to
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Together Baton Rouge not gonna like that


They are going to line their pockets with that shite. Nothing but parasites
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7155 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 7:58 am to
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There will be similar things in Shreveport, Lafayette, New Orleans, Mobile, etc.


Already under construction for the Lafayette area. Coming up quickly too.

Amazon Fulfillment Center Carencro
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
55961 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:03 am to
schools to get their money
that's all that matters
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
9026 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:14 am to
wait so they want to stiff BRPD/EBRSD while sending their employees into NBR for work everyday?
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:22 am to
The BR council/SWB/GRAVY will find a way to screw this up, again
They simply can't get out of their own way, which is almost impossible for Gravy.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42619 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:29 am to
This is a much better deal than the film tax credit scam.

The exemption is for ten years. It’s a partial exemption, they will still pay School taxes.

The local and state governments will still collect sakes tax and income tax in construction workers and permanent employees.

In the short haul it’s a plus. After ten years it would be even better provided things don’t evolve in another direction
Posted by JDGTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2020
650 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:30 am to
They should not qualify for ITEP. They are not a manufacturer.

This is what is so screwed up about our tax system in Louisiana. They try to crave out exemptions here and exemptions there and they are never fairly administered.

End the homestead exemption and ITEP today, roll back the millages so collections are the same and then we will have a fair property tax system. Much lower taxes on property but everybody paying them.
Posted by JDGTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2020
650 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:32 am to
I suspect the mall is taxed now. They could of course sell it at a tax sale.

This is not like traditional ITEP where the assets are new.

If they are going to have ITEP then they need to administer it fairly.
Posted by JDGTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2020
650 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:36 am to
They are not paying for jobs. They are not giving Amazon anything. They are simply wanting to not tax them.

NONETHELESS, ITEP does not apply to non manufacturing companies.

Do away with ITEP and the homestead exemption and lower taxes accordingly. All would have lower taxes but all would pay.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6538 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:50 am to
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14811 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:03 am to
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Over 10 years

$3,500 per year

Meanwhile, a multiple of that will be dropped into the local economy in the form of wages.



and if you dont give them the tax break, and thye just decide not to build the facility and then buy land with interstate access in ascension or livingston (or tangi by i-55 and i-10 and BR still doesnt get the tax revenue nor the associated jobs....

they are taking a dead dilapidated property, knocking it down and building a start of the art facility. this will make the property around the mall site and spur gentrification....

plus my wife can get all the stuff she orders on a day or less..... (happy wife.....)
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74245 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:07 am to
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former Cortana Mall


I feel like I missed something. But to be fair it was a dying mall 20 years ago.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:08 am to
quote:

and if you dont give them the tax break, and thye just decide not to build the facility and then buy land with interstate access in ascension or livingston (or tangi by i-55 and i-10 and BR still doesnt get the tax revenue nor the associated jobs....



And Cortana would remain an abandoned eye sore. And north Baton Rouge would lose out on 1,000+ jobs for unskilled labor that it desperately needs.

Not a difficult choice IMO.

Honestly this is the best realistic outcome for that property, which already has utilities and streets connected to it. And they aren't asking for very much in return.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:09 am to
quote:

In the short haul it’s a plus. After ten years it would be even better provided things don’t evolve in another direction



Even if Amazon is not dominating e-commerce in 10 years (it likely will), that business model is here to stay. If anything, it will accelerate.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17680 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:21 am to
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The vehicle under which the deal is being structured is known as a payment in lieu of taxation, or PILOT.

I thought LA voted No on the PILOT program (Amendment 5) last year.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79970 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:26 am to
Im fine with the tax breaks,, but why does liberal Bezos want to avoid taxes? Fair share and all that.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41052 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:30 am to
quote:

They should not qualify for ITEP. They are not a manufacturer.



This is not an ITEP. It's not going before the BCI.

It is a PILOT.

PILOTs and TIFs have been around for a while when it comes to economic development.

quote:

End the homestead exemption and ITEP today, roll back the millages so collections are the same and then we will have a fair property tax system. Much lower taxes on property but everybody paying them.


I support this, but the general feeling is that the taxes wouldn't quite roll back enough to make it tax neutral. Just a lack of trust.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:31 am to
They'll probably spend most of that $35 million in savings to demolish the mall and the parking lot.

Which is what the taxpayers would eventually have to do if Amazon went to Livingston Parish or some other place.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41052 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:31 am to
quote:

I thought LA voted No on the PILOT program (Amendment 5) last year.


That was only in respect to manufacturing deals.
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