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re: Amanda Knox documentary?

Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:44 am to
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:44 am to
They were just two kids in love.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:45 am to
TV board

C'mon man
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:46 am to
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The better question is Amanda Knox and Casey Anthony thressome?


With that much crazy in one bed, no way the sex isn't epic.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:56 am to
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He wound up being discliplined over it if I remember correctly.



The documentary said he got promoted from his role back then FWIW.

His obsession with the sexual side and religion was bizarre.
This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 11:58 am
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:08 pm to
I thought the prosecutor was crazy and latched onto these insane theories without even considering other options. The journalist was complete scum and admitted at the end that they all made up a bunch of stuff just to get the covers.
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:10 pm to
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Pretty obvious from the physical evidence, the black guy acted alone.


I guess so, but I mean is this guy the dumbest criminal around? He breaks in, rapes her, and then casually drops a deuce without flushing?

One thing that isn't mentioned is what role drugs played in that night. Its like none of them were exactly sure what they had done that night and were saying what they thought they could remember. Either they were all loaded or really dumb......maybe both?
Posted by WestSideTiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:11 pm to
The police told her she had HIV after a blood test to get her to write down all of her sex partners. I think there were like 7. Not a whore. Didn't have HIV either. DNA evidence proved inconclusive. Police thought it was likely a woman bc only women usually cover a body after. The black dude admitted to it later. At first he said she wasn't there and then changed his story saying he saw her silhouette out the window. He got a deal for a smaller prison sentence too BTW. She and her bf were not only innocent but greatly wronged by the Italians.
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:13 pm to
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The black dude admitted to it later


I missed this part, what did he admit to?
Posted by WestSideTiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:22 pm to
He admitted he was there. Said they were hooking up. He went take a dump (left it in the toilet) and came back to her room and found her dying. Panicked and left. He had a record of break-ins. He left the country after. A friend of his Skyped him and that's when he gave the story and how police got him. That's also when he said AK wasn't there and also he wanted to kill himself. Didn't even know the victim prior.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:26 pm to
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The prosecutor was a first-class douche who seemed obsessed over the sex lives of young women. In other unrelated cases he would argue "this woman is a sex addict and is bad, bad, bad because of it."


Honestly, he probably didn't expect the media to actually pick apart so many of his office's screw ups. He was pressured to make an arrest and I think his dislike of both Amanda's attitude (which didn't help her) and her boyfriend caused prejudice with investigators.

There was clearly a lot of arrogance and incompetence there. I'm not sure if that part of Italy has a lot of crime....but they ran that show like a small town police force that had never seen a homicide crime scene where the suspect wasn't laying there dead next to the victim.

She was acquitted on appeal....which I suppose is evidence that the system sort of worked, then they tried her again which to me is just weird.
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:27 pm to
Oh, admitted to being there? gotcha

I thought you were saying he admitted to killing her.

I guess it probably was him and he's just a dumb criminal. Knox is only guilty of being an entitled crazy American in Italy. It makes sense bc I just don't see the boyfriend being involved. He seems like he couldn't hurt a fly.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
5034 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:28 pm to
I don't think she had any involvement. I do think that she's a little unstable, and her erratic behavior led to her being a suspect. I also think that the Italian criminal justice system is a disaster. I read a book on the investigation behind Italy's first serial killer last year (The Monster of Florence), and it had some overlap with the Knox case due to having the same prosecutor. The book painted both this specific prosecutor and their entire court system as a fricking joke.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:29 pm to
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I missed this part, what did he admit to?



I don't think he admitted to the murder, but he admitted to being in the house when it happened.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:35 pm to
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their entire court system as a fricking joke


I did like one of the comments from the Italians. "This court was first opened in 1308. In 1308, they were still drawing buffalos in caves in America"

Doesn't make their court better, but it was kind of interesting to see how short our country has been around in comparison.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:38 pm to
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I also think that the Italian criminal justice system is a disaster.


This. That witch hunt was partially a distraction from massive mistakes made by the investigators. They were clearly unhappy that Knox's interrogation didn't yield a confession with a nice little bow wrapped around it. They were trying to pin it on someone quickly, and not actually investigating. That kind of "conclusion in search of supporting evidence" rush contributed to a lot of errors that led to the arrest and conviction of those 3 boys in West Memphis, Arkansas. Cops had a lot of media attention and needed to close the case.

I'm not familiar with Italian criminal justice, but it looked corrupt and screwed up in this case.

I imagine that the town where this occurred depended on tourism and an unsolved murder with international implications would impact some businesses there.

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I do think that she's a little unstable, and her erratic behavior led to her being a suspect.


She was acting like an irresponsible 20 year old that thinks nothing bad could happen to them. When pressed by Italian police, she didn't give them the answers they wanted. The European press also painted her as a spoiled, rich American. I'm not sure if that's true. Her family appeared to be middle class people at best.

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I did like one of the comments from the Italians. "This court was first opened in 1308. In 1308, they were still drawing buffalos in caves in America"

Doesn't make their court better, but it was kind of interesting to see how short our country has been around in comparison.



That doesn't make Italian justice system superior, and his comment was a clear dismissal of valid criticism that he was not prepared to address.
This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 12:46 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:43 pm to
Someone mentioned one of the lawyers was obsessed with young women's sex life.. Does anyone think that played a major factor in how she got so tangled into this case?

I know absolutely nothing about the law in Italy, but I do remember questioning how different the law is there just because, if I recall, in the eyes of the police and others, she was guilty before a full thorough investigation was complete.
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5422 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:51 pm to
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Police thought it was likely a woman bc only women usually cover a body after.


This is a great example of one of the theories that the Prosecutor accepted as fact. Just because it is more likely that a woman covers up the body does not mean that ONLY women cover up bodies after killing. The Prosecutor latched onto this and refused to even consider that a man may cover a body and that, in fact, it happens all the time. I would bet that women don't slash throats very often either, nor help to rape other women, but he ignored those stats.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:01 pm to
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Just because it is more likely that a woman covers up the body does not mean that ONLY women cover up bodies after killing.


They knew that a male has to be involved...but they were really married to implicating Amanda Knox in this. They wanted her involved one way or another, and that blanket nonsense was an example of them arriving at a theory without hard facts and letting that theory prejudice their own investigation.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:14 pm to
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The police told her she had HIV after a blood test to get her to write down all of her sex partners. I think there were like 7. Not a whore. Didn't have HIV either. DNA evidence proved inconclusive. Police thought it was likely a woman bc only women usually cover a body after. The black dude admitted to it later. At first he said she wasn't there and then changed his story saying he saw her silhouette out the window. He got a deal for a smaller prison sentence too BTW. She and her bf were not only innocent but greatly wronged by the Italians.


This.

The DNA lab was absurdly bad as well. She was fricked.
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