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re: Alton Sterling shooting - discussion thread
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:53 pm to Schmelly
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:53 pm to Schmelly
quote:This is true. However, if your response to this is to then struggle with the police officers while in possession of a firearm while they try to arrest, well, you may get a few bullets in the chest.
how it's just human nature to question the cop's command when u don't know what u did wrong.
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:54 pm to slackster
quote:
We see cops keep things upright in that situation and pull their weapons all the time. They took a non-lethal route the whole time, which is commendable, but then they tackled an armed suspect and couldn't restrain him. Maybe that was the right move, maybe it wasn't. It surely didn't leave much room for error once they're rolling around the ground with a giant, non-compliant man.
What do you think would have happened had the cops continued to order him to comply without attempting to tackle him?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:54 pm to Sherman Klump
His baby mama set him up. She called the cops. She knew he was a felon carrying a gun. She wanted him locked up for 5 years.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:55 pm to Sherman Klump
Adrenaline was flowing. He was shot. Threw the straddled cop towards the other (shooter) and raised up. That's where the shots to the back (off camera) came from.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:55 pm to RB10
quote:
What you're saying is I can walk up to the guy who hit my truck, punch him, kill him when he hits me back and be free of all charges as long as I can say I feared for my life. This is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard
If a reasonable person would fear for their well being then yes -- that's what I'm saying. Self defense on his part when he hits you back at first.. and after a certain point it becomes retaliatory and he becomes the attacker.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:56 pm to trilltiger
Listening to Jesse Jackson right now makes me dumb. This dude is such a douche it's incredible.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:56 pm to IIxxBREADxxII
quote:
honestly think that the cop with the gun accidently fired due to the struggle.
That was my first impression
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:56 pm to Puck82
Makes sense. Thanks
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:57 pm to G The Tiger Fan
Now Jessie saying the cops were racist & their fears were unfounded
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:57 pm to Schmelly
I love how Meg was just kinda like frick you and ended the segment. 
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:57 pm to UpToPar
quote:
What do you think would have happened had the cops continued to order him to comply without attempting to tackle him?
any number of things
Backup comes, maybe they get him with teaser clean this time or pepper spray, or maybe they defuse the situation.
or maybe reaches for the gun and he gets shot again.
He sure is shite aint running anywhere so i dont see the rush
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:58 pm to Hickok
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So the cops know there is a man with a gun in the area, they see him and decide lets wrassle...come on, they told him to surrender, he didnt comply, they tried to taser him x2, didn't work and didn't comply, now what would you do next to a suspected armed man. Shot him? Attempt to Subdue? or just decide its not worth the hassle and leave the area?
You back up a few feet, stand with your guns drawn, inform him that if his hands move below his chest that both of you will shoot. All while calling for back up. You don't wrestle a presumably armed man to the ground.
And just because some will misinterpret this, I will state again that it is justified.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:59 pm to AwesomeSauce
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I love that people are so in tune on Twitter that his name is misspelled. #AltonSerling
I know. The only related items that are trending are:
#AltonSerling
#JusticeforAltonStering
His last name is like Qadaffi.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:59 pm to PapaPogey
She shoulda called on his bullshite more. Shouldn't have even had that POS on my tv
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:59 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Yea, give the guy resisting space to actually grab his weapon. Great plan.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:00 pm to nc14
Lets get a beer!
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:00 pm to LNCHBOX
Come on Fox News...do you really have Mark freaking Fuhrmann providing analysis on the BR shooting? Could there be a worse candidate for analysis on this story? Seriously?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:01 pm to Boxcar
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:01 pm to UpToPar
quote:
What do you think would have happened had the cops continued to order him to comply without attempting to tackle him?
Who knows, but we know what happened when he was tackled to the ground, don't we?
If they stay up, at the distance they are in the first video, and draw their weapons to wait for back up who knows how that turns out, but if he goes to his pocket for his gun I'm sure they kill him just like they did after they tackled him.
Again, at best, it was a miscalculation and put themselves at a huge and arguably unnecessary risk.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:01 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:How much time does it take between brandishing and pulling the trigger? At any time during the encounter, it could be argued the cops were a millisecond away from being killed. Tip of the Day: When you're being detained by police, don't grab your gun.
"The source also told CNN the witness who called 911 said Sterling was "brandishing a gun," not pointing it at someone."
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